12:16 pm
YG Press
"Winner and iKON are both working very hard right now. Just these past few months, they've written over 50 songs to me. I sent them all back. They still lack 2%. They know that themselves as well. Through this process is how they'll develop and grow. I'm very sorry to the fans waiting for them but I can tell you that there will be news soon. When Winner comes back and when iKON debuts, they will definitely be worth the wait [...]"
Source: OSEN via Naver
1. [+551, -40] You should just shut your mouth. Because the people that hear your words just end up being angry...
2. [+438, -27] If a rookie is lacking in some way, it's okay to come out with the help of a producer. Yang CEO, there are so many idols these days..... you need to promote their faces so that people will get to know them. ㅜㅜ Can't they continue self-producing after they've gotten more exposure?
3. [+446, -44] Whatever...... Just stop with the damn self-composing talk and let Winner have their comeback. Are you aware that the rookies they debuted with have already made at least three comebacks????? So why are you paying the producers at YG then? There's a lot of talented producers at YG, right? It's not the time to talk about self-composition.... please read the comments... and the atmosphere in the fandom...
4. [+408, -19] Even if they do lack 2%... as no one is born perfect, I think the road of development is fun to witness with the artist themselves and their fans... I don't feel good about the way you stress "perfection" right from the beginning as it seems to be pressuring the artists, not including their busy schedules. Whether it be from a fan's point of view, or the artist's point of view themselves, or the producer's... they'll all be different. However, wouldn't it be better if you gave them time to play and go on variety shows or if not that then comfortably let them focus on producing songs... I don't get what you're trying to do while sending them off to Japan...
5. [+366, -29] I remember seeing an article at the start of the year about him saying he won't deceive the fans anymore ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Give me Winner's comeback
6. [+223, -6] They wrote 50 songs and he says he rejected them all ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Wow.... kids, are you still okay?
7. [+212, -14] You said yourself there are over 10 talented composers at YG... do they not work or what? Why are you using the fact that they're 'rookies' as an excuse for not having their comeback? Plus they're not ready for their comeback, but yet why did you schedule them for a Japan Tour? A Japan tour without a comeback? Why aren't they doing a Korean concert and only doing concerts in Japan? It doesn't make sense
8. [+208, -19] Also for Winner... can't you make their Korean promotions a priority? Like you said, they're busy preparing their album but I can only see the fact that you scheduled them for a tour as a means of earning money. Don't just talk about taking care of your artists... but please focus on music promotions and Korean promotions... And sending them to Japan on the day that Korean fans made them Winner is cheating fans you know ^^
9. [+192, -13] Your ears must suck
10. [+178, -11] No but rookies are allowed to be lacking a bit of course... don't just judge that for yourself. Letting them out and letting the public decide won't be so bad... how can they be perfect right from the start? It's nice to see artists develop and grow
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52 comments :
[+192, -13] Your ears must suck
LMAOOOO but for real tho tsss just give us winner and ikon already!!!
Fine we can wait as loan gas the music is good then I am happy I mean I waited three year for Big Bang
The thrist for WINNER is real lol
They're rookies other rookies made +3 cb and promos meanwhile winner.. 0 variety shows, 0 cb, shitty promos (debut) 2 -3 weeks and now Japan tour without a cb.... ughhhh
Here we go again. His monthly bullshit. (He is quite late this month tho) Wait a few more days and he will talk about his imaginary new GG.
http://i.imgur.com/kGfoq.gif
so many Winner fansites closed and rest while Winner is away, do YG seriously want to keep this going?
YG: Winner needs to focus on composing 'PERFECT' songs
*Send Winner to Japan on tour performing the SAME FUCKING songs, for the Nth time!!!!!
This YG bitch !!!
if they left, they left, new fans will come anyways...
why are people so concerned about WINNER losing fans? you're not leaving, so what? if you do, go ahead, if you don't, props to you. no one's holding you back & if stanning WINNER means only for bragging rights, than those who left were bound to leave sooner or later.
if you look at the list of in-house producers in YG there's a lot of them, some of them haven't release stuff for other YG artists in years. tbh, yeah, it's an edge that Winner and iKON can make their own music but isn't better to give them a helping hand? as they go on in their careers they'll develop more and encounter different things which will aid them in making various types of music. maybe having an entire album be self produced is counter-productive. and if he insists on having them established as producer-idols maybe they should debut/comeback with a single/s rather than an entire album.
fansites are not just fans, duh. fansites are the one who took pictures of the boys, deliver gifts, and give news to international fans like us, without them, we won't get any info from the boys except via media outlet/ YG, that's why I'm worrying fansites closing one by one. not bragging rights or anything.. lol you sounds bitter
7. [+212, -14] You said yourself there are over 10 talented composers at YG... do they not work or what?
THIS!
of course people are concerned. having a strong fanbase makes the difference of being a successful or a failed idol group.
Yes, Winner's music has public appeal but that doesn't mean they can be a long-time running group. They've release 1 album and promoted only three songs, for 2 months. Their career in Korea is basically their current CF deals.
stating it that way makes it seem like the fans who left never really cared but how are they supposed to support a group that has no activities at all. losing a fansite is a big-deal, it means people who actually invest in a group by attending their events, taking pictures of them in airports, sending them gifts and coordinating with the the company (YG) and international fans are tired of waiting. it's important
We were worry bcuz we know the reasons why they closed their fansites. Bcuz of WINNER lacks Korean activities. & WINNER as a rookie group really need to appear lot in front of public. A quick comeback even just a single is a must to solidify fanbase & made public didn't forget bout them. Not 1 year hiatus after 1 debut album.
We rarely see K-IC got mad. Even during SMA awards & other controversies they didn't get too mad. This time u can really feel K-IC anger, sadness, frustration & other emotions towards YG.
They're still rookies, you cant just tell them to give 100%. Give them comeback with other producers song or themself. If its flop, it's okay. They're still rookies and they need to learn a lot of things including losing. Let them know what the publics want from them. They'll learn more like that...
LET THEM OUT!!!!! ALL OF THEM!!!!
Rookies aren't supposed to be perfect. Even their seniors aren't 100% perfect. Self-composing is great and all, but you also have a whole array of talented producers... a little help can't hurt and it doesn't subtract from their talent-- we know they're talented composers but their whole album doesn't have to be self-composed...
please let us watch YG party again on MAMA this year
But it's true anyways, like after Taeyang's album, I realized that what he says is true. Taeyang's album
was delay 4 yrs, and I was so angry every time he delayed it, but think about it, we wouldn't have ENL if YG didn't wait for that one song. 20 songs was rejected, but it's worth ENL: it's a gold song, that YG somehow predicted will appear with some patience, we should learn from him lol.
I want my boys back. But we need to realize that it's probably gonna take some time. There r so many rookies, so many rivals nowadays. Winner hit it big when they debuted, if they don't come with that IT song, then the public will call "one hit wonder" and get throwing aside..' Like if bigbang didn't come with Haru Haru after lies, then I hardly think they would here, and still going strong.
it took almost a year of hiatus before bigbang hit daebak with lies and it was also their comeback album (mini album to be precised)
they were also losing their fans at that time and vips are already losing their hope if bigbang can make it, but after the mini album was released, critics poured good reviews and casual listeners randomly commented on music sites of how good lies and the album was... lies became a national syndrome and suddenly they gained more fans from diff walks of life (w/c is really a BIG achievement at that time bcs basically, boy idol groups= fandom full of female teenagers), more promotional activities, more music show guesting, more commercials and they became the highest-paid idols of that time...
i didn't actually witnessed those what I've written above, i just read it from a good korean vip telling i-vips to stop worrying about bigbang (when they're suffering a lot of hate for scandals)...
And certainly, i don't want to compare bigbang to ikon or winner coz they are in a totally different cases... i am as agitated too coz i've been following this two groups since their WIN days like other fans out there...
BUT pls let's just have a little more faith for this two groups especially Winner... if they can survive this period, and hit it daebak with a very good song/s... they will not just be called the 'trends', they will be respected as 'artists'...
"Upon the release of “Lies” and the album, online tonality and content about Big Bang changed, and the haters-filled sites was then ruled by new armies of VIPs. It was totally amazing. Was it because of the airplay or the mutizen awards? Was it because of the no. 1 song? No. It all started with the music’s quality. Upon release, critics review flooded within the first two weeks, which resulted to numerous print and online articles that led to people’s curiosity about critics’ rave. Good music, great reviews, people’s curiosity which was then answered by good music resulted to the song getting at the peak." - a letter of a korean vip
Hahahaha 😂
I hope that too , i really love Winner . Im going to wait for them even if it takes so much time.
I don't think we can wait 4 years for winner tho
Whenever I read one of his interviews, I always end up mad af. Added with the need to punch him, it's unbearable T^T
I've never been so stressed before I became a yg stan.
1. [+551, -40] You should just shut your mouth. Because the people that hear your words just end up being angry...
But to be honest i rather winner make the songs themselves than sing the songs producers made
Its just everytime yg opens his mouth i wanna put a sock in it @@
"However, wouldn't it be better if you gave them time to play and go on variety shows or if not that then comfortably let them focus on producing songs... I don't get what you're trying to do while sending them off to Japan..."
THIS.
I know his taste of music is good
But please make winner do promotion as group in korea.
its my first time stanning a group with lack of promotion
At this point, i don't even know if i have any energy left in me. I feel exhausted.
I'm seriously tired of YG bullsh*ts... He just has to shut his mouth and let the artists do their comeback with total freedom over their music because this is how they will be successful
http://38.media.tumblr.com/2b9e9d9193562243abe5fc53c0437125/tumblr_mfo10qM2331rfs2y4o1_500.gif
Same bullshit. Just a different day.
Just by looking at his picture make me want to cut a bitch -.-
Yg is becoming more and more stupid. Why people still buy his excuses though? The whole 'we delay this and that to get perfect song" is just bullshit. The truth is he doesn't even know when to give them comeback or debut because his plans are all fucked up. He should stop with all his bullshit excuses. He has ikon, ygngg, and katie kim that waiting in line to debut. What the fuck is wrong with his management?! This old man doesn't even know how to promote his artists/rookies! Whats the point of having a lot of composers in the company if you still delays their comeback and debut?! He can give a lot of stupid interviews, release book, open restaurant but can't give his artists comeback and debut! Fuck this man.
Tbh even if you release all those 50 songs that you rejected i will gladly spend ny money for it because it's fucking a new song from them. It's now june, 2 more months it will be a year since their debut and what we got? 1 album, no comebacks. Look at uniq that debuted around the same time, how many comeback alrd??
You won't even let them release at least a single.. /deep sigh/
What makes me frustrated more with YG plan is he wasted 3 months this early year with no comeback from any artists of his, when he at least can drop a mini album or single for winner, an album for lee hi or ikon debut.
He better shuts his mouth before and stop doing interview.
He is just full of himself
NATO = NO ACTION TALKS ONLY
And why is he the one that decide the song is good or nah? Does he the one who will buy the album or the fans?!
A lot of fans get brainwashed by yg saying this company give freedom to his artists when the truth is not! What freedom if you have to do musics to please the ceo? What freedom if you can't choose your own title track? What freedom is you are not allowed to go to variety?
Everything is trash about this old man.
Ikon hasn't even fucking debuted. Winner fans should beg restful the me,bears have at least come out even if it's only a little.
i completely agree with you, but the thing is, Winner is completely gone after their fanmeet in Seoul, if i'm not mistaken not even once group activities, they didnt go to any variety,radio appearance, any festivals, meanwhile other rookies that debut around same time with Winner are everywhere. i'm not Big Bang fan, but i think when bb still rookies they are everywhere, YG promotes them all out. i think that;s the problem.
Winner is the first YG group that i stan, so i really don't mind if they not make any comeback this year, because i already know how YG works, but at least make them active in public eye. They are not in Big Bang level yet.
and Kpop nowadays it's not the same like in 08/09/10...
I can already hear these words being uttered in angry voices.
I know this is not much compensation but YG talking about them all the time is a sort of way of keeping them relevant, it's easier and cheaper because YG is more relevant now AND 2 have dramas and 1 is in a reality show which will broadcast so their not doing nothing, plus with the overseas tour they're investing in fans and markets that are worth more money.
They might well be working with the producers, YG just has not mentioned it. We'll find out when the album comes out.
I think he is doing this because it does promote the groups, it puts their name in the media AND makes them look like victims of his harsh system AND makes pre-hype when they finally come out with something AND suggests they've works really hard in the hiatus.
ia. And NamSong is face of large clothe brand from China, they hold their fanmeeting in Beijing today.
Their latest group activity was fan meeting, and they still do CF.
Yeah they have not vanished off the face of the Earth, lets be positive and be happy for what they have, it's too early to be so ungrateful and bitter.
I heard that Winner's 3rd Japan tour is very anticipated. even they have 2 round in days for some city. im glad that they still do very well in Japan. but I really hope that YG let them have a concert in Korea.
And they need new material for their co cert right? they only have an album, 3 singles, and 2 covers :(
yg's telling the truth though. there is no comeback/debut that was worth the wait. and yg's the head of the company for a reason. he knows what he's doing so i'm going to trust that the comeback for winner will be great and the new girl group and ikon's debuts will be fantastic too.
Stfu
yg makes me sick. He's such a control freak.he's only concern with charts n maintaining their artist chic image. All he does is issolate his artist. Let them do variety. Winner would be so good n a variety show.
I thirsty of their new music. but im grateful,realy grateful because they can do what other rookies cant/still hardto achieved, like have CFs deal with big product, and participated in big project :)
I think they're doing really well and since SMTM usually gets a lot of attention Mino could be somewhere topping the charts while it's airing and the others are getting many compliments for their acting and they are still getting contracts and earning money. New music would be great but at least their careers are not threatened.
and they already make a lot money compare to other rookie :)
Yep and then they can use that money when they want to do things for themselves.
yes, you have a point... but you know, Bigbang had it so much WORSE than Winner had it today... Winner might be suffering a long hiatus, but at least they're receiving so much love and a lot of people are waiting for them... but in Bigbang's time, there were so many haters that all the fans could ever do was cringe in the corner;
that kvip said that they don't have the guts to defend bigbang coz the hate was so overwhelming (they're called diff names such as 'wannabe-idols' and 'too-ugly-to-become-idols')... and all they could ever do was to go to YGent and cheer and support for them..
so what's my point and why am i always giving this Bigbang reference? coz i want all incles to realize that all we have to do is to stick with them, have faith in them, wait for them while focusing on our own lives... and who knows, one day, we'll wake up, and the comeback is already there... and all of us will be slayed... and we'll forget all of the whining that we did... and they will make us proud once again...
Bigbang did it under the worst conditions, and i believe that Winner can do it too...
its Taeyang of BIGBANG. not a rookie (WOT5) with lacking activity, media play and support.. so how we can survive? almost everytime i open my twitter just to see their new photos.. but theres none.. old photos everywhere again n again.. i wanna listen their new music.. i miss them so much..
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