2014-10-27

Yang Hongseok: A victim of evil editing

(Requested)


1. Lack of screen time during the fan meet when he introduced himself amusingly as a hip hop newbie and showed off his moonwalking.
2. Even among the many fans who were cursing at him or not paying any attention to him, he still made eye contact and smiled at the very few who were holding up his slogan.  He loved the slogans so much that he carried it around and held on to it until they got off stage. 
3. During the final stage, fans asked for his sign and he got on his knees and signed it for them.  He wrote "Thank you!" on the back of their slogans. 
4. His fun, joking personality doesn't get shown on broadcast.
5. Gets along very well with the other members but the editing makes it seem like he's always alone.
6. Went up on the search rankings after a broadcast where he only got at least ~3 minutes of screen time.

Source: Pann

1. [+202, -12]  Off the bat he's handsome and likeable.  Though he joined late and is being carefully watched, he isn't complacent and still carries a sense of self-regard.  Out of the three new members, he has the best voice as well. 

2. [+194, -10]  Truly a victim of evil editing...  YG is blatantly making a fool of the viewers with this broadcast.  From a program that lets fans vote and bring their own slogans, I have never seen a program with such biased editing such as this.  Yang Hongseok, I support you!

3. [+184, -9]  I believe in you because of the mentality and character that you've shown no matter what anyone else says... though there still aren't a lot of people who believe you right now, stay strong.

4. [+68, -1]  Yang Hongseok is the type that grows on you after a while.  His true character gets shown little by little as you get to know him and people's reaction towards him can totally change.  From the first fan meeting and now the final match, people are starting to look at him differently and people's reaction towards him now is no joke ;;;  He definitely would have gotten more popular if it wasn't for the editing.

5. [+67, -2]  I'll be honest that I didn't care for him at first but I was surprised after going to the fan meeting and the final match... because he wasn't the Hongseok that I saw on broadcast ㅋㅋ  There weren't a lot of cheers for him but he didn't get depressed by it and continued on with sense.  After watching their final stage, I started to like him ㅋㅋ My heart changed to Yang Hongseok.  Hope you debut for sure.  Hwaiting!

6. [+54, -4]  To those who will vote for Hongseok in the final match, press the up-vote.  This is so frustrating!  Seriously.... please... let Hongseok debut.




"I was originally rooting for the original six plus Chanwoo and I was planning on voting for Chanwoo in the last round but after watching their final stage my heart started to go towards Yang Hongseok.  I thought his personality was so-so because of the image they showed on broadcast but he fits with the members more so than I thought and is kind mannered.  During the fan meet, Hong Seok said that he wanted to do well but he's never done anything like this so his body wasn't following what his mind wanted him to do.  He said that he felt sorry and that he would work even harder.  When he said those words, my heart was truly touched."

Post: 'I went to Mix & Match final match and..."
Source: Pann

1. [+65, -6]  I like Hongseok a lot ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ  If I start to like an idol, it's usually just for a short time or so but I've really fallen for Bobby, B.I, and Yang Hongseok.  IKON will really become successful... even if it's for their future, I think the best choice would be Hongseok rather than Chanwoo.

2. [+63, -6]  I went to the final match with my vote on Chanwoo and left with my vote on Hongseok instead.  I don't know exactly why but Hongseok was a lot better during the final stage.

3. [+41, -9]  I really want to know the reason why YG is so insistent on pushing Chanwoo forward.  Is it because he's more known through his appearance on The Heirs?  I don't understand their reasoning...


-


109 comments :

Ignis Invictus said...

It's true. Hongseok was a victim of evil editing which I find unfair because this is not your typical variety show. This is a show which should give the audience enough knowledge to make an informed decision. This is a life-changing show and editing should not play a role in determining the outcome.

It is upsetting.

B-line said...

I prefer Jinhyung/ Hongseok than Chanwoo TBVH

ninni said...

so true... mix & match is so full of crap... so biased.
I really hope hongseok got higher vote so he can join IKON.

ninni said...

I really want to protect him pffffffft

Guest said...

Omg lol, I was going to request this too.


He really is. From the little that we've gotten to see him, he seems like a genuinely nice guy. The amount of fans he's managed to amass in this little bit of time is a bit crazy and I really hope it goes in his favor (whether or not he gets to debut with iKON).


YG would be stupid to let him go but part of me is already resigned to the fact that it will be Chanwoo.

couer said...

Chanwoo is cute but Hongseok is definitely the one who has a better voice.

keunbae said...

mini-Yang.. so little screen time and it's only: bitch face, off-tune, can't dance, and all negative stuff.
tbh, my ideal line up for iKON is: 3Kims, June, Yunhyeong, Hongseok, Jinhyeong.

(yeah come and kill me hardcore TeamB ot6 fans)

deanjane said...

I would say jinhyung and hongseok are the victim of this show. But that is not surprised at sll bc mnet is known as the evilest editor ever. For eg in smtm3, toy performance got edited out completely. Mnet is so biased.

Sarah said...

It's true that I also didn't really like hongseok at first but after watching the extra episodes on naver and stuff he is really silly and likeable! Just the biased/ evil editing that makes him seem eh

kkmt_ent said...

My preferred lineup is: 3 Kims (fixed)
Junhoe, Hongseok, Jinhyeong



and either Yunhyeong OR Donghyuk.
Cause Im still unsure who is better btw the two, since neither of them are good enough.


and of course, Chanwoo should be out.



Having strong vocal lineup is far more important than the OT6 crap. Please, this is not hating. This is basically for the betterment of IKON if we want them to be one of the best boy groups in the future.
Only the strong in vocal should stay..

dub said...

I'm doing my best to let our Hongseok win this competition win or lose no regrets im going to support him all the way no matter what #justiceforhongseok

sunniidays said...

I really think he has a great mentality. I was watching the latest episode and he always came out smiling and friendly even though he knows he has the least amount of fans and didn't get disheartened by it. It was really saddening to hear everyone else get so many cheers and hardly anyone cheered for him. :(

jhen said...

Thank god he is gaining fans.bi really like him.

jhen said...

Thats my line up too. Im just sorry to dong.

Guest said...

actually even with the "evil editing" I found him likable somehow... I mean at least he's straightforward and real

jhen said...

Same thought.

macy_12 said...

HongSeok is soooo precious, it breaks my heart that he gets a lot of hate because of bad editing.


ugh, i still have hopes that YG's not letting him go because of iKON's Chinese advancement & because of his appeal, HongSeok is tall, handsome, smart, & has a beautiful voice, perfect combo tbh.


the fact that fans have already leaked some perf from the final show & YG has yet to delete anything….. i smell YG media playing at a very genius level tbh.
i know conspiracy theories, lol. i'm trying to stay positive gosh.

koo said...

I'll be voting for OT6 + Hongseok! Personality-wise I feel like Hongseok suits Team B the best bc he's playful too lol whereas I still feel Jinhyeong and Chanwoo arent kinda awk... I'm just scared that Team B might prefer the maknaes just bc they feel more sorry towards the young ones... Of course I'd want to vote someone that OT6 actually want

Amanda Rachel said...

YG just crushed this kid images & probably careers. TT TT I wish the best for him. I feel weird with this Mnet editing especially for the survival shows that needs voting from fans like VIXX my dol. I don't see a problem in SBS Kpopstar or Mnet SuperstarK. Hongseok singing voice is obviously better than most of them except Junhwe and probably Jinhwan.

Wendy Hia said...

As usual Ygpress being hong seok biased .. Yesterday put up an article for jinhyung so when will
You put an article in favor of. Chanwoo ?

Wendy Hia said...

Everyone is now feeling for jinhyung and hong seok no one feeling for Chanwoo sob

Amanda Rachel said...

I agreed. I think Hongseok fans should post / spam lot to YG official twitter or FB cuz YG actually cares about what fans comments (didn't said about their timing actions tho). That's why YG stans always WHINING everywhere to gain YG attentions.

Amanda Rachel said...

Chanwoo had no probs or bad issues about him. So he didn't need any clarifications like other had to face.

Wendy Hia said...

what chanwoo's schoolmate said about him

This is the only proof that I have..Half picture of my Junior High School’s photo, truthfully I’m really careful because he is not debuted yet, but I want to take a proof. His real personality is the quiet type. Truthfully he is really popular with girl, but truthfully i don’t know why he is not someone who get along easily with girls hehehe Although he acted as child actor before, he never bragging it out, he’s nice and quiet and his height… i don’t know the real measurement hehehe but he’s definitely not in short category!!! I think he got taller by now. I don’t know his fave singer but I found one contrariety, I didn’t get opportunity but I know his body is really stiff, I surprised seeing how his dance in Mix and Match hehehe.this is the last hehehehe there is no spectacular stories about him, when it’s winter season he always wearing padding jackets..

in his primary school period he’s a nice kid too hehehe and he has good Japanese language skills, he got 100 mark on exam

YGPress said...

I'm not biased towards any of them as I haven't watched a single episode of Mix & Match. It's just a fact that more K-netizens are talking about Hongseok and Jinhyeong than they are about Chanwoo

koo said...

GUISE. who the fuck is next now?????????/
https://31.media.tumblr.com/3f9164998d117910d5965e90c698f320/tumblr_ne34sfl1Hx1qzjb8ko1_500.jpg

Amanda Rachel said...

I truly hope for YG new gg. But it maybe YG new gg, Lee Hi or Psy. Some also said it maybe TOP. I don't know.

Wendy Hia said...

What about what was posted in DC gallery fyeah-chanwoo.tumblr.com ? His schoolmates about him ?

Aria said...

I also have never seen a program with such biased editing such as M&M before . I dont know who to blame YG or Mnet. Hongseok is totally a victim of evil editing. Yang Jr. u got my vote!!!

Amanda Rachel said...

Then girl you should request YGPress to translate that. Send the link or whatever.

Wendy Hia said...

Face it.. All 3 trainees have the strengths and weaknesses.. Hong Seok is still stiff on stage as i see from the fancams from the last battle.. Chanwoo weakness is his vocals but he got good stage prescence etc.. Jinhyung is the most well rounded.. So please stop hating on Chanwoo !!!!

Apollo said...

I choose ot5(yunhyeong) + jinhyeong + hongseok. I believe it will give IKON more versatility vocally. You can now differentiate the voices. They will also add to the visual line in IKON

Wendy Hia said...

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=bourn&no=5372&page=1

anonymous said...

It's the best lineup too if they want to attract non-Team B fans. I wasn't a fan of Team B before, but besides Double B's and Junhoe's talents, seeing Jinhyeong's and Hongseok's potential (I mean, look at their killer combo of good voices and good visuals) made me excited for IKON's debut. I'm truly wishing for them to be part of the lineup.

oh-keurae said...

does it break your heart
or does it heart your break B)

Wendy Hia said...

i am really feeling sad for Chanwoo !!!

macy_12 said...

ROFL omg you're evil! i laughed harder then i should at that! HongSeok is precious!

Wendy Hia said...

I will do it ... Will support Chanwoo !!!

NunmulBaboBB said...

Do you think he will be dropped from YGE if he doesn't make it to IKON?..For some reason, I know he won't make it to Ikon but I don't think he will be thrown out of the company. But with all of your comments, its scaring me cause I would really really want Hongseok to be part of YG fam...arghh..Why do they make us fall in love with these trainees then kick him out later..:(

Wendy Hia said...

After the episode 6 broadcast, Chanwoo was no 6 on trend.. But his popularity went down a lot this 2 weeks sob

Wendy Hia said...

what chanwoo's schoolmate said about him (from fyeah-chanwoo.tumblr.com)

This is the only proof that I have..Half picture of my Junior High School’s photo, truthfully I’m really careful because he is not debuted yet, but I want to take a proof. His real personality is the quiet type. Truthfully he is really popular with girl, but truthfully i don’t know why he is not someone who get along easily with girls hehehe Although he acted as child actor before, he never bragging it out, he’s nice and quiet and his height… i don’t know the real measurement hehehe but he’s definitely not in short category!!! I think he got taller by now. I don’t know his fave singer but I found one contrariety, I didn’t get opportunity but I know his body is really stiff, I surprised seeing how his dance in Mix and Match hehehe.this is the last hehehehe there is no spectacular stories about him, when it’s winter season he always wearing padding jackets..

in his primary school period he’s a nice kid too hehehe and he has good Japanese language skills, he got 100 mark on exam

Wendy Hia said...

find ygpress a bit HongSeok biased...Posted at least 3 articles about hongseok and 2 on Jinhyung as far as i remember since Mix & Match started only 1 on Chanwoo

#VOTE4JINSEOK said...

#justice4jinhyeong, he's getting blacklisted by OT6 kfans

http://data1.whicdn.com/images/143724416/large.jpg

macy_12 said...

tbh, im not sure but i know that if he does leave YG, A LOT of companies will be fighting over him. he's a jewel. He's tall, handsome, smart, sings beautifully, has stage presence & is improving significantly in dancing. star potential tbh.


HongSeok has all the traits to be successful under YG as a soloist, i think he'll most likely be one if not w/iKON. although i say I'm unsure, I'm sure YG can see the high potential in him. i hope YG isn't dumb enough to let someone like him slip. a real lost.

Wendy Hia said...

I should create a hastag #pleasestophatingchanwoo

TS_Love1403 said...

Lol maybe he was trending and his popularity skyrocket since the final match took place. But ohh well people will stay pressed regardless; "he's rude, pity vote, not yg style, arrogant, not hardworking"

Yeah

Fiona said...

Agree! And I perfer Yunhyeong

zz said...

it's like they're promoting chanwoo in every fcking episode

Wendy Hia said...

If Hongseok is pitiful for being a victiim from evil editting, Chanwoo is now also a victim from YG biasness which caused many fans to turn away from him in this 2 weeks

ladyperona said...

HongSeok has a great voice I agree. But he looks sooo awkward on stage. His expression is stiff as hell. I liked listening to him, but not seeing him performed. I'm sorry but the kid still has a long way to go.

swinter101 said...

It's sad how so many of you hate on Chanwoo then go ahead and hate on Knetizen calling them names. Some of you act like his the worst thing on the planet and that the one you like is amazing compared to him, so of the comment even say the other two are better singers than Junhoe and Jinhwan.

qwertyuiop said...

As much as I want original OT6 to debut, I can't help but wished jinhyeong and hongseok to be in the team too. My friend decided to use her vote for Junhoe for Jinhyeong, because she thought Junhoe already has a safe spot in ikon. I agreed, but then I keep thinking about this at school. We still have three more days and I'm still full of doubt. The original members wished they would debut together with the new member. As a fan who followed Team B since win, I can't help but not liking the addition at first. But they slowly caught my heart and idk what to do. I can't decide/choose who to vote... I want Jinhyeong and Hongseok but I also want yundongjun. I see some people are choosing the new members over ydj, but I'm not mad. I'm just feeling miserable. I honestly don't know.

Meomimi said...

I was really unhappy with the editing. When I see Mix & Match, my eyes always pay attention to him, Hong Seok. It looks like they edited him into a different person. Because I was looking videos focus and Fancam of Hong Seok . Things were very different. Hong Seok really is a good singer with a good voice. Ikon should have vocals as he to complete the group. I could see he was trying to change himself. This is the first time I registered on this page and this is my first comment for a person. Dancing skills can be improve . That's all right. I know you're trying to look like. We Love You, Hong Seok. <3

ebelle said...

i think ikon will be like 2NE1 and BB... eg. 2NE1 2 same age ladies (hongseok&jinhwan) BB .. a battle between the group's maknae (BB seungri & Heunseng and from Ikon Chanwoo and Donghyuk)

TS_Love1403 said...

I´ve been liking Hongseok since I heard his singing in day1, and I think his voice and Junhoe singing together really compliments each other well, their harmonization is really beautiful and they both got sass.

Though it was off the roof how evil Mnet edited Hongseok since his first entrance and made it look like he´s an arrogant bastard (but in reality he was just being upfront and wanted to get close to the members) when he just asked the members to "introduce themself". And it was so unfair how they portrayed him so I´m glad his 4D, dorky and warm personality is reaching to the fans who bashed him.

Anyhow in term of singing skills one should watch the compilation of all 3 trainees and compare for themself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-NHQVwtMrI&spfreload=10

aninalolol said...

Okay, let say that hongseok is a nice guy and can get along wt other member well. But for me, and i think that his vocal doesnt really match for iKON(bside he want to be more swag i think its hard and people would hardly enjoy his prform with the future iKON). He lack in making people enjoy his performance.

December said...

I'm still not warming up to Hongseok even after episode 7 and lots of fancams. He's truly a victim of evil editing but based on what I saw, he's still not having the hip-hop feel and not in sync with other iKon members in performance. He may be a sweet and talented boy but iKon is a group. If he's talented enough then maybe he will shine more going solo or with a ballad group. Sorry boy, you're definitely not in my iKon's line up.

And please, people, Chanwoo may be weaker in singing and dancing but he didn't do anything to harm Hongseok. If you wanna hate, hate the PD and YG, not Chanwoo.

NunmulBaboBB said...

Me too. I have said it before and I'll say it again, Hongseok can really be and actually pull off, with much success, being the next YG soloist. Lets just hope YG isn't stupid.

Celine said...

anyone but Chanwoo please

I dont hate the kid but he should really go back to acting #SaveIKONsVocals

Wendy Hia said...

if Chanwoo goes back to acting he will be forever tagged and shitted upon for going into acting because a singing career didnt work out.. He will not be taken seriously.. Ok i know it is not the problem of us fans it is his problem just pointing this out for consideration

Bald Mr.Worldwide said...

He will not be taken seriously??

Girl you should go to see NB articles. All the time knetizens praise actors to heaven and trash idols like they arent worthy to be popular.
If he is more interested in acting and has acting talent, then let him act instead of asking him to do the things he isnt the best at. You can continue to support him as an actor so why keep whining like he will lose everything if he doesnt make it to iKON line up?

yujinbb said...

hongseok can sing..yes. but he sometimes went off tune. during their ENL on final match he didnt hit the right notes, which was very disappointing. Im actually rooting for ot6 + jinhyeong. maybe hongseok may come 2nd. Jinhyeong's falsetto on Long time no see. God, twas awesome

xxkclxxx said...

Poor Hongseok you dont deserve this. Mnet's editing makes him look like a "bad guy" (but...thank god for those fancam) If YG really want to debut Ikon early next year then my bet is on Jinhyeong. His stage performance has improved, can dance, and his interesting and attractive voice alone make me want to vote for him.

Kaila said...

Fuckkk... This comment make me so teared up... In a happy way that is!!!! You go babe!!! Get them votes get them get them!!!!

2. Even among the many fans who were cursing at him or not paying any attention to him, he still made eye contact and smiled at the very few who were holding up his slogan. He loved the slogans so much that he carried it around and held on to it until they got off stage.

& of course he would definitely get a lot of votes if they didn't make him be a complete douche. Ohhh maybe that's why Yg made him a douche. More drama. Lololol. Yg better debut Hongseok. Even their names sounds similar. And same surname too_

Kaila said...

How many times you want to comment on a SINGLE article? I never see people hating on Chanwoo cause of JinSeok. They just don't like him. Hate and dislike is two different things. Hongseok is still stiff on stage. Yadayada. He can improve on it obviously. Same goes to Chanwoo too.

kpeeee said...

i don't know from the very first start hongseok got my attention unlike the other 2 members, he got my attention a lot even more than donghyuk and yunhyung

Leasseable Lee said...

Jinhyung & Hongseok was a victim here! Team B fans spread rumors that JinHyung was iljin, but her classmates & even teacher testified that he is actually a very nice kid. While, they made hongseok look like had some attitude probs by editing him out a lot!!

JinSeok said...

FOR JINHYEONG & HONGSEOK SUPPORTERS:
Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong
Follow + like official sites for our campaign.
FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon
Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

If you like them: Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

Jinseok fans: Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

Hongseok + Jinhyeong fans: Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong


Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

JinSeok campaign:
Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

Our Jinhyeong = Hongseok petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

JINHYEONG & HONGSEOK SUPPORTERS:

Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

We agree! Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

Sign our petition Jinseok fans: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

FOR JINHYEONG & HONGSEOK FANS:

Sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

Then please sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

JinSeok said...

If you like them both sign our petition: https://www.change.org/p/ceo-yang-hyun-suk-of-yg-entertainment-vote-for-hongseok-and-jinhyeong

Follow + like official sites for our campaign.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jinseokforikon

Tumblr: http://jinseokforikon.tumblr.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JinSeokforIkon

Kidari said...

Objectively speaking i think the best line up is to have Hongseok on board.
I will say why:
- He has the most beautiful voice of all 3
-When akwardness and improvement can be done in dance , tone of your voice isn't changing.
-He clearly sings well in english and speaks other languages since he studied in singapore and china as well
-While being on Ikon, Yg can have more people doing solos album as Bigbang has all of members with solos.He can be the next Seungri or Daesung
-His dance is not that terrible comparing to somebody who has never dance since middle school and only get 2 month training , we can expect better.
-We can see his willingness to accept his flaws and progress and under pressure and hatred, he still keep his smile and progress
-I think team B were only treaten by him as he went in at the latest and there was not a warm welcome but as soon as ot6 get secure they will be more team work and they will work on him.
-He is the one with more to offer to the team than anyone else and bring the vocal upper so the rappers don't outshine the rest that much.
-His voice is different and give a new flavor to the group.

chyeah said...

Its very upsetting. Hes a sweet angel & realistically, would bring even more talent to ikon ^^! They would be so good together. People say hongseok doesnt suit ikon image but so what? Its just an "image". He can work hard and fit in. I believe in his abilities. Team b fans were really so disgusting how they hated against him (and chanwoo and jinhyeong) when its really just a scripted show. I personally love all 3 trainees, i think they are so cute and sweet and hardworking,so i wouldnt mind any of them being in ikon (although i am a little iffy with the camera bias towards chanwoo) i hope fans choose the member that is truthfully best for ikons future. I will support all of them ^^

chyeah said...

I doubt itll be jinhyeong. I barely see his fans, and some people still dislike him bc of the iljin rumours. Its ethier gunna be chanwoo or hongseok

chyeah said...

I kinda agree with this. But ofc donghyuk and yunhyeong will stay bc we team b fans are too attached to them. Realistically jinhyeong & hongseok would be better for the team but kpop fans dont care about talent, they care about the idols lol.

Captain said...

Dok2 just posted 11:11 on his Instagram, so probably Bobby?

http://instagram.com/p/uqKmODpoVg/?modal=true

ykrunkg said...

I've rooted for Hongseok since day 1...Fans already voted and he always came in last because of how he was portrayed as the slacker, etc. That's very unfair.

Wendy Hia said...

I will still vote for Chanwoo !! But I guess me 1 person is limited ..

Wendy Hia said...

You are from Korea ?

Napassawan m said...

if u watch his fancam and read fanacc you will definitely fall in love with this guy
he's sooooooo sweet & humble & caring unlike in M&M
i was rooted for him since before his appearance due to his sweet personality that never appear on program
if i were him i would very upset and really depressed why would he join the program just to be the victim of marketing show.


whomever said he didn't blended well/he's not YG style/He's awkward etc.
go watch his fancam for the fan meeting in every country and final round concert

he's amazing!! despite the least amount of training but his voice is just incredible powerful he got the BALLAD VOICE like June said haha
and the more I watch the more I think he suits the vocal line of iKON he got his own part just like original member did and in the chorus line he really done the best.
Eyes, Nose, Lips version June&Dong&Hong is really amazing their 3 voices blended really smoothly
even the wait for me and just another boy song he even got his own part and turns out being the outstanding voice than some of original members. ofc better than the rest of newbies.


i didn't convinced anyone to vote for him just want some haters to see him as a person not an idiot that get cursing every mins he appears on the hell rigged show.

Moe said...

*waiting patiently for OT6 debut, not really care who is the 7th member will be*

nothingonyou123 said...

It's a huge loss for IKON if both Hongseok and Jinhyeong don't make it. Sadly the blind/deaf ot6 fans don't see/hear shit... Wake the fuck up!!!!

Celine said...

no because he was an actor BEFORE being a singer , beside it's not like his career will not have worked out since he wouldnt have made his debut as a singer technically so ....

and it can only be an advantage for him since he will have many fans when he'll go back to acting

C.M said...

It is not about Who's Good or Evil , the three of the new members are good boys and has got different harms.. but I find that Hongseok's kind of potential has nothing to do with the whole Concept of Ikon's TBH ... He'll do better elsewhere for sure, just not in a Hiphpoish Group !!!

minimini said...

I think so too. hongseok is victim of evul editing, absolutely! i watched all program. he has little portion of program. but it's enough attractive to attract him!! he has touching voice, and effort to improve his dancing ability until 6.am

Teresa said...

Hongseok is the victom of evil editing, but so is jinhyeong. It made me really upset when YG and MNET only included Chanwoo's part. I'm not hating on him, but seriously if YG is asking us to vote for the member of iKON, shouldn't they show us a fair amount of screen time? team B's fans were being so rude so the new 3 trainees. It made me really upset when everyone was hating on hongseok, just because of what is shown on tv.. When i went to the final match and saw them live, i could tell that hongseok's personality was totally different, so outgoing and adorable; way different from the show. The thing is, I was certain that Hongseok should be part of iKON when i realized that he was included in mix and match only when he was 2 week trainee. He's improving so much and his voice is amazing lol. he is really needed in iKON. im totally voting for him!

6hawonchik said...

It is true. Also, he is serviceable enough for the purpose intended with iKON member.

et said...

I didn't know about his true character during only on-air Mix&Match. However, I realize the show edited Hongseok's part unfairly and biasedly now. The fact is that he has sweet and lively personality and is trying to practice hard to realize his dream I won't be deceived by the show any more and keep supporting Hongseok's debut as a member of ikon! Please vote for Hongseok !!!

Shannon said...

If u have clear eyes, u will see the truth. It's unacceptable. I don't wanna see unfair situations at all, plz.

Guest said...

i hope hongseok gets voted.. its sad how everyone is hating on him because of the way he's shown on tv. i think his voice definitely should be a part of ikon.. and i think he's improving on his dancing too. but then again, iKON is meant to be a boy idol group so i think the ability to sing should be the criteria to vote.. not for dancing lol.

aa said...

hongseok♥

정하나 said...

plz support for hongseok. he has really good voice and talent

Guest said...

Hi, I'm also hongseoks fan. I think hongseok needs foreign people's help more than korean fans... You should vote on thursday and friday in korean time! Can you help me vote for Hongseok in the official facebook Mix&Match website? You can also vote through the app LINE. If you'd like to help, please let me know by sending me a mail. I heard there are even events for voters who vote for hongseok!! you should keep updated by looking at his facebook page. Thank you!!

Mia said...

Hi guys, I'm also hongseoks fan. I think hongseok needs foreign people's help more than korean fans... You should vote on thursday and friday in korean time! Can you help me vote for Hongseok in the official facebook Mix&Match website? You know you can also vote through the app LINE, right?! If you'd like to help, please let me know by sending me a mail. I heard there are even events for voters who vote for hongseok!! you should keep updated by looking at his facebook page. Thank you!!

mia said...

Hi , I'm also hongseoks fan. I think hongseok needs foreign people's help more than korean fans... You should vote on thursday and friday in korean time! Can you help me vote for Hongseok in the official facebook Mix&Match website? You know you can also vote through the app LINE, right?! If you'd like to help, please let me know by sending me a mail. I heard there are even events for voters who vote for hongseok!! you should keep updated by looking at his facebook page. Thank you!!

sally said...

I absolutely agree!!!!

iKON said...

I've watched one of fan video when they were in aiport .. B.I bobby and him are together happily talking to each other .. Seriously .. I really want him in ikon .. He has a kind heart .. A kind hyung to dongsaeng maybe that's why he got B.I and JunHoe's heart who happened to hate him so much before ..

r stone said...

this is so heart wrenching. I wasn't able to vote for hongseok because i thought he was that complacent. Mix and match showed the darker side of him so i wasn't able to recognize his brighter side. And now, while playing random videos of ikon. I realized Hongseok can be such a dork too. ugh. Regrets. sigh. Hoping he will win this competition, jinyheong too. lol. but I really want hongseok ang jinhyeong for the group because they're the best option.

parkkeu said...

Dear Hongseok,
I'm really looking forward for your debut. Hope you can eat cornflakes in front of millions people. And I really love your voice. It's absolutely beautiful!

I know things are not always easy but when you’re feeling down remember
you’ve got many fans that’s always here for you. Believe in yourself.
Have faith in your abilities. Don't let anyone limit your dreams!

Love and support all the way from Indonesia fan, XO

fangirlimnida said...

LMAO THAT SECOND POST.

At first, I was like, "meh idc wjo gets to join as long as OT6 is complete." but hongseok joined... I HONESTLY FELL FOR HIS VOICE. but bc of the editing, I somehow became distant with him, and Jinhyeong got my vote. Until I saw the final match.. 헐;; Hongseok's performance was far better than the other two. WHY MUST HE BE THE ONE EXCLUDED FDVJGEBKGEBOFSVJSVI they needed him, vocal-wise tbh. Jinhwan, junhoe's and his harmonization on "I Want You" was d bomb and his e,n,l just-- I'm cri

Post a Comment