2014-11-26

[Pann] Fans discuss the rivalry between SM and YG fans



"SM and YG are both great... but their two fandoms curse at each other a lot and aren't known to be close.  I know that it's inevitable for them to always be compared since they're the most successful companies in our country but I wish they would get along better.  I wish the artists became closer too since I love them both." 

"Just like the friendship between Donghae and Dara..."



Source: Pann

1. [+23, 0]  Ah I really wish the two companies' artists and fans got along better... ㅜㅜ I'm an SM fan but I really hate the fact that we always fight against YG fans...

2. [+20, 0]  This is a bit off-topic but their stock reports came out and they really seem to be doing well... bet they will still be successful for a long time.

3. [+18, 0]  Luna and Minzy are close too.  They even have selcas together

4. [+5, 0]  YG fans themselves don't get along that well

5. [+3, 0]  Kang Seungyoon is friends with Krystal and Key 

6. [+3, 0]  I wonder how Donghae and Dara got close??

7. [+2, 0]  I'm a fan of EXO, Shinee, Big Bang, Winner, and iKON....... I want to cry ㅎ

8. [+2, 0]  Am I the only one who likes JYP...?  They could fall soon but they still have the ability to go back to how they were before if they get it together... plus they really seem like a family... My heart hurts as a JYP fan since there's so many people who only like SM or YG.

9. [+2, 0]  Kang Seungyoon and Krystal are close!  I think he's also friends with Key

10. [+1, 0]  Whether it's SM or YG, don't you hate the companies itself?  I'm an SM fan and though the artists are my style... I think the company is disgusting.  I don't like everyone entirely from YG... I'm fond of Akdong Musician, Winner, and Bobby but I hate the company itself ㅋㅋ

11. [+1, 0]  For boy groups, I like YG and for girl groups, I like SM.

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82 comments :

Sad Hongseok said...

Of course there'd be rivalry amongst fans considering there's rivalry between SM and YG. I don't worry about that too much. I mean, there's intra-YG disputes and I'd like to solve that first. WINNER and iKON fans, let's love~~~

taenamo said...

"4. [+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well"

so much truth in this comment

MmSorta said...

The lack of upvotes

하핳 said...

4. [+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well

LOL this is sad but I agree... I'm a fan of both Winner and iKON... and damn sometimes things get heated between them

Spread peace

http://media.giphy.com/media/XUSblNLNqoq2s/giphy.gif

Choco said...

[+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well

Well it's not like the SM fans get along well either

Feb said...

Yup YG fans have problems among themselves but it's nowhere near the level of hatred that SM fandoms have towards each other. I mean, have you ever witnessed those wars between ELF and Sone, ELF and Exo-L, Sone and Exo-L (and the list goes on)? It's a whole different level lmao

SY said...

I want to see more interactions between SM and YG artists...
Seungyoon and Krystal are adorable... :)))
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gyryhKiz1qbh0yco1_250.gif
https://38.media.tumblr.com/32e80b8efd76d3a4f129bdfa882a8079/tumblr_mwzvh8x0jR1s7vpl4o1_500.gif
https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mas2vuf9De1r8ttb6.gif

Choco said...

I feel you for this, I admit I am a bigger Winner fan than iKON fan. But it just sucks seeing their fans fight when the boys themselves are just so close ! I won't forget those OT11 moments T T

princekyung said...

Krystal and Seungyoon give me life

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gyryhKiz1qbh0yco1_250.gif

https://38.media.tumblr.com/32e80b8efd76d3a4f129bdfa882a8079/tumblr_mwzvh8x0jR1s7vpl4o1_500.gif

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mas2vuf9De1r8ttb6.gif

princekyung said...

Really? I've never really had any interactions with SM fans... what do they fight about??? I had no idea lmao

park sakura lopez said...

4. [+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well



obviously...I mean have you seen WINNER and iKon fans?? it's going to get even worse when iKon debuts. If you don't like the group, then stop paying attention to them and stop talking about them.

princekyung said...

And it doesn't even help that YG himself sometimes (intentionally????) fuels the fire

Sue said...

It's not even because of SM groups that I started to dislike them its the stupid fans. I mean before I got into Kpop I was only a fan of BIGBANG and 2ne1. I opened my mind a little after and started getting into more groups. I really liked f(x) and Super Junior and Shinee were interesting too. Also SNSD had some songs I really loved.


It's just all these fanwars really started to make me dislike or not pay attention to the SM groups in general. I really wish we didn't have to always fight!

hannaxxy said...

:( http://31.media.tumblr.com/bdf7afa3809da4466299a9fee545be72/tumblr_muvh1lutXH1qkh9mno1_500.gif

hannaxxy said...

Also, it's not just Winner-iKON fans... even Blackjacks themselves have internal fanwars... :'( It's so sad to see sometimes.

Sue said...

you know the struggle is real when there are fights between Gizibes, Minjas, Daralings and Bombshells.

hannaxxy said...

The things that come out of his mouth sometimes.... I mean his interviews alone spark fanwars. I'm praying he doesn't say anything that can lead to further arguments between fans in his upcoming Healing Camp appearance :|

http://media.tumblr.com/262e805fa37c37f3604e53888ff7d946/tumblr_inline_mokjaiY9ro1qz4rgp.gif

Choco said...

Definitely. Timing is definitely an issue, I mean when Winner just debuted and he was already planning for iKON debut....

Feb said...

Let's just say this is a start lmao

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL4tPteCAAAhL6i.jpg

hannaxxy said...

and that "promote for a whole year" thing with iKON really sparked a nerve with Winner fans... as well as Bobby and B.I composing Winner's title track...

park sakura lopez said...

lmao I can't

hannaxxy said...

LMFAOOOO

Choco said...

Yeah because it's not like Winner will be promoted for a year.... or having a cb anytime soon...

I am not sure about the title track though. Because Double B hardwork is given to Winner (who got popular from it) when they could have saved it for themselves for their own debut?

Feb said...

For your reference you may want to google abt the black ocean incident in 2008 and the golden disk awards saga in 2010. Those are some legendary kpop fanwars lol

수지짱 said...

Minzy & Amber~~~

https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0y36ztmdo1qh64p6o1_250.gif

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr3nogVoXY1qd6h5ho4_250.gif

park sakura lopez said...

it's more of a Daralings vs. Gizibes tbh...Minjas and Bombshells seem really peaceful and quiet.

_Π_ said...

I love the all girls of 2ne1 equally...and i didnt use twitter before 2ne1 crush comeback..i just join twitter to help to gain sns point for music programmme i was shocked when i first see internal fanwar among blackjack..i used to see lil bit on youtube and just used to ignore it but when someone tweet cl and other three minons i lose my control.i really was so angry that time ..hope bj gets along ...it hurts when bj fights within fandom...

pamela said...

that black ocean was just...

수지짱 said...

I see it all the time... especially among CL fans-Dara fans ... It's actually really sad to see since the girls themselves are so close..

ninikai said...

7. [+2, 0] I'm a fan of EXO, Shinee, Big Bang, Winner, and iKON....... I want to cry ㅎ

Guilty.

YukiJames said...

Well VIPs and BJs get along really well and always help each other out. But the newer fandoms like Inner Circles and iKon fandom don't get along and they also don't get along with other YG fandoms. Even when new artists like Epik High and Lee Hi came in it was pretty peaceful but the new boy group fans are upsetting the balance a bit. AKMU fans are chill~ They're just in it for the music and the cute siblings ^.^

titan-kun said...

My favorite otp

titan-kun said...

Cassies vs Every fandoms was legendary lol

titan-kun said...

My god!!!!!

But i did saw on twitter ikon fans blurred jinwoo face. That pic was a pic of Jinwoo and Jinhwan from Just Another Boy performance on M&M, then incles do the same to Jinhwan. I mean what in the fresh hell?

Feb said...

Blurring is normal. Fansites do that even when members of the same group are in the same frame with their bias.

The 'strategic' placement of the watermarks like in the pic above is not nornal. Rofl.

ygfangirl said...

[+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well

Truth.
Seen so many Inner circles hating on Kornflakes and vice versa. For the love of music, why!?

はじめましてよろしくお願いします said...

if you're having arguments with other fandoms it proves you're not here for the music.

Miss T.O.P said...

Lol! Agree, but sooooo glad it kinda settled down now that GD/Kiko are super obvious. (This is pertaining to daralings vs. gizibes)

Btw, I thought CL fans were called CLassifieds? Please correct me if im wrong :)

gzbitch said...

Lol yeah. Mess. Especially the fights between Daralings and Gzbs.

anne said...

4. [+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well



you mean SM stans? most Elfs & EXO-L's hates sones and snsd lmao

anne said...

i witnessed it too lmao it's really funny coz elfs are much closer to blackjacks before so they will vote for 2NE1 on polls instead of snsd lol


i would always visit their MV's to see their fans bashing each other's fave groups lol

anne said...

please~ the war between #ELFS & #SONES before is legendary lol & now it's EXO-Ls VS SONES

anne said...

lol

titan-kun said...

When i said blurring it's actully a mosaic and paint the faces with black color lol.

Moe said...

and luna
http://www.soompi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/0819-luna-minzy-inside.jpg

Bald Mr.Worldwide said...

I love and stan 2NE1 but ngl I hate some Daralings and Gizibes. Some Daralings like to shade other member's visual and some Gizibes are cocky. I fucking hate Gizibes who spread OT3 idea during Bom's scandal.

Bald Mr.Worldwide said...

A lot of CL stans started calling themselves Gizibes after The Baddest Female happened and CL trended 'Where my gizibes at?' on her insta.

Bald Mr.Worldwide said...

Minzy and Luna are the real close friends. I think Luna said that Minzy and her mom celebrated her birthday with her last year.

Amanda Rachel said...

10. [+1, 0] Whether it's SM or YG, don't you hate the companies itself? I'm an SM fan and though the artists are my style... I think the company is disgusting. I don't like everyone entirely from YG... I'm fond of Akdong Musician, Winner, and Bobby but I hate the company itself ㅋㅋ

Yes I like u >.< except like every YG artists + some SM.

Amanda Rachel said...

Babo Kang Seungyoon 'Stupid'. I want to see them together again. But SM suck for stopping Red Light promotion too early.

Amanda Rachel said...

Yes. The Fact that SM artists have the most sasengs already can prove it. ELFs get mad at SONEs when newly debuted SNSD was near their SuJu oppa or sing together with their oppa. SONEs according to ELFs had some attitude problems. Some EXO-L boycott not to vote for SNSD just bcuz of Taeyeon&Baekhyun relationship.
P.S:-I think only Shinee&f(x) fans didn't have much probs. Didn't hear anything bit from Shawols. f(x) fans is pity cuz didn't even have official fanclub name. Some called them aFFi(X)tion right?

Haha said...

I will never understand fandom fights. It's like they're having a war on the internet over subjective topics, do they honestly think that everyone will believe that their group is the best if they fight with everyone over that topic? So stupid. Just don't use something as great as the internet to fight over something as stupid as who's prettier

ygBIATCH said...

I have no prob w/ sm stans as long as they don't come at yg artists/stans tbh~

Sue said...

They were call CLassfied, but CL has pretty much made her own fandom name now so that should be the official one and the one I use now.

Sue said...

Minjas and Gizibes recently got into fights cause of the what Minzy uploaded on insta and then changing her name...that was the craziest I have seen Minjas lol. They're usually so quiet.

dloor VBP said...

Lol at Junhoe's face.. Forever not satisfied xD

Kari :P said...

4. [+5, 0] YG fans themselves don't get along that well
#truestory having been a long time fan ive seen fans who feel they know everything about bb and such and can get over protective towards new fans...and new fans sometimes think they know everything because they've seen every show and have constantly been keeping up with news for several months... sadly what VIPs & Blackjacks are going through, is what iKon, AKMU, New GG fans, & IC's, Will go through

Moe said...

are they in same church?

Miss T.O.P said...

Ahhhh I see! Thanks! :)

Miss T.O.P said...

Ty! :)

cigaretteplease said...

YG fans kinda have it as worse as SM fans too tbh.
BBx2NE1 fandoms have a harmonious relationship with each other but 2NE1 blackjacks among themselves are really divided specially now.
Cl's fans are the most. They're so arrogant and cocky and like to put down the other girls to make CL look better. Specially this yr, CL graced a lot of magazines etc etc and now they're shoving down on people's faces that Bom Sandara and Minzy are irrelevant and even called them as CL's minions. Wtf. They think CL is better than 2NE1 or that their success is only because of her. Lol. And they got mad at Minzy for creating drama and accusing her of being jealous when Minzy didnt do anything wrong. And before they were like "omg CL is the best rapper out there" but when the baddest female flopped and k-netz became more vocal about their opinions on CL as a rapper (so-so rapper, could hardly understand her words, grating voice) they go like "oh no, CL is not just a rapper. She's more than rapper. blahblah" That may be true, CL has strong charisma but she's not a great singer (annoying tbh) but first and foremost she is supposed to excel in rapping with all their acclamations but so far, in their 5 yrs in 2NE1, she hasn't really proven herself as her hyped-up reputation as a rapper. Lol.


Now there's also a gap between Incles and Ikon fans but that's mostly YG's fault for being partial and biases and for intending to create a stiff competition between the two groups right from the start.

anne said...

Blackjacks & VIP are pretty cool with each other. In fact, Korean VIPs helped 2NE1 on their debut days by purchasing their albums & supporting them on live shows. Remember the Dream Concert in 2009? No one attended from BIGBANG (even GD who is also promoting that time) but VIPs were there for 2NE1, waving their yellow lightsticks for 2NE1 and i am forever grateful for that. The problem is the stans of each members, CL stans & Dara stans are forever in each others necks & YG being BS.


Now, the problem is between Inner Circle & iKON stans. If they can't resolve that problem & can't accept the fact that their oppas treats each other like brothers then they'll be like sones & elfs in the future (hopefully not).

emmashin said...

not really, the history between sones and elfs is iconic.. ripping banners during dream concert, threatening to kill each other, pushing each other through the railings, elfs turning off their light sticks during snsd's performance and chanted Wonder Girls name etc etc

Guest said...

Exo fans and Shawols don't get along because 90% of Exo fans are ex Shawols who left Shinee for Exo. And they like to bash Shinee every chance they get and vice-versa. It's gotten a lot of calmer this year but it was a mess last year

Amanda Rachel said...

I don't think 90% EXO-Ls are ex-Shawols but that kind of person will jump again once SM Rookies/ Boys Generation debut.

Kaila said...

Yes omg yes! Yes you're the only one living in this small planet. 8. [+2, 0] Am I the only one who likes JYP...?

Lmao the best comment is this. Whether it's SM or YG, don't you hate the companies itself? I'm an SM fan and though the artists are my style... I think the company is disgusting. I don't like everyone entirely from YG... I'm fond of Akdong Musician, Winner, and Bobby but I hate the company itself ㅋㅋ LET'S HIGH FIVE

kwangsooyaa said...

what happen?

nhf said...

fanwars aside..just wanna thank who ever post this pann because putting pic of donghae-dara 10years friendship..i hope one day the trio (+goo hye sun) hang out together eating some taco..

Bald Mr.Worldwide said...

maybe because Minzy went/go to the same church with some SM idols.

Jj said...

This👆

anne said...

Those sones during dream concert 08 are so horrible & cruel, they ripped the banners of other idols there, threatening the other fandoms and even bringing weapons w/ them like knives. God, they're crazy.

Leah888 said...

Omg yes! The most CL fans are so aggravating, I used to love CL but her fans got to me. As someone once said 'Cl's worst enemy is her fans'.

cigaretteplease said...

that's insane! nothing can and should top that.

Nippy said...

YG>>>>>>SM

fifinurlia said...

I'm a standard kpop fans.. and personally i prefer YG artist than SM most of because of their musical talent.. and their visual appearance is very stylish & unique.. and between winner & ikon i prefer winner, since kang seung yoon's songs is more suited for me.. thats why i love color ring more than empty ^^ and for me the 5 members of winner having their own stand out unique voice, charms & classy visual which i love the most.. ^^ #justsharingopinion

One short of a dozen said...

At the 2008 Dream concert, the three biggest fandoms Cassies, Triple S and ELFS, turned off their lightsticks and chanted Wonder Girls during GG's performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcPDy1ShI8

Lena said...

Why people always forget that Emty was composed by doubleB, AND P.K and Mino as well? And B.I didn't gifted winner with that song, YG said on an interview that he thought emty suits winner more and I agree, just watching the M&M performance I noticed Bobby and B.I didn't make justice to the song tbh.

emmashin said...

yes, they ripped suju's banners in front of the elfs & they also tore Yunho's banner coz they mistook him as an sj member.

anne said...

Dream Concert 08 was insane


read it >>


Dream Concert Part 2: Wrong doings of SNSD fan club

1. Walking around with a knife, threatening Cassies and ELFs
Why in the world would anyone bring a knife to a concert if he/she didn’t have the purpose to stab someone with it? SNSD fans are a bunch of low-life thugs.

2. After SNSD’s performance, SNSD fans left the stadium in a group
SNSD was rude enough to leave the stadium after the performance of SNSD, deliberately missing out in the performances of DBSK and SUJU. There are many fan accounts that prove unlike what they claim they never cheered for other artists either!

3. ELF (SUJU fan club) attack/battery
The girl in the wheelchair with a broken leg is just one example of SNSD boy fans beating up ELFs. There are currently reports of 3 ELFs who had to be taken to the emergency room.

4. ELF sexual molestation
Actual fan account:
“A friend of mine was taking a long time to comeback from the restroom, so I called her. She picked up the phone and told me that she was in a certain row, naked and crying. She was going to the restroom when a couple guys came up from behind and ripped her clothes and touched her body and took pictures and then left. They looked like high school boys…she says she doesn’t remember anything but that the boys were holding pink balloons.”

source

6. Tearing down SUJU and DBSK’s banner
Fans saw SNSD fans ripping the banners for SUJU and DBSK, enraging many fans. And making many more cry!

7. SNSD fans used words that a human should not say to incite other fans
[Warning: This is disturbing!]
SNSD fans were cussing out other groups and saying the following:
“We can kick their stomachs so that they can’t have babies”
“We can just rape the girls”
“Those crazy bastards, if they’re going to do it, they should do it right”
“They’re screaming like crazy b*tches”

8. SNSD fans cussed out other singers while they were performing
SNSD fans shouted “bastard”, “b*tches”, and “Shut up” when other artists came onto stage. This doesn’t compare to the 10 minute “silent treatment” that SNSD received.

9. Attack/Battery of ELF/ Cassie/ and Triple fan clubs
So far, ELF has reported 3 members who were taken to the hospital; Cassies have 2; while Triples have many injured members.

fluffball said...

SHIP~

C.M said...

I swear YG's Fandoms Inner struggles are Noooowhere near The atomic SM Fandoms Fights :s

Shawols x ExoL Elfs x Sone Cassopia x Whole SM .....

I get scared just reading their Posts !

Am just glad the majority of us appreciate or (at least) respect the whole company Artists, and I guess we can't do much to ease the existing (Reaaally childish) Tentions between some Fans, so let them be u.u

siraulzzang said...

Exactly, fan wars within YG are like Brothers/Sisters seeking for attention from their parents while SM's internal fan wars feels like cut-throat competition between corporate employees vying for a promotion. LOL! It's scary.

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