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1. [+70, -1]
Seoul Music Daesang Rookie Award Points Chart
Physical Album (20 points)
Winner - 800,000 - 8.6 points
GOT7 - 710,000 - 7.2 points
Akdong Musician - 360,000 - 3.8 points
Park Boram, Eddy Kim, Red Velvet - Lower than 100th place, no data
Digital Sales (20 points)
Akdong Musician - 1,436,302 - 6 points
Eddy Kim - 1,097,771 - 4.6 points
Winner - 1,073,489 - 4.6 points
Park Boram - 1,047,559, - 4.5 points
GOT7, Red Velvet - Lower than 100th place, no data
[Points based on title tracks cut from
Akdong Musician Melted: 770,000+
Winner Don't Flirt: 670,000+]
Domestic Votes (10 points)
GOT7 - 47.54% - 4.8 points
Winner - 45.58% - 4.6 points
Red Velvet - 4.3% - 0.4 points
Akdong Musician - 0.1%
Eddy Kim - 0.05%
Park Boram - 0.02%
Overseas Votes (10 points)
GOT7 - 67.75% - 6.8 points
Winner - 31.00% - 3.1 points
Red Velvet - 4.31% - 0.4 points
Akdong Musician, Eddy, Kim, Park Boram
Physical + Digital (40%) + Voting (20%) = TOTAL
Winner: 20.9 points
GOT7: 18.8 points
Akdong Musician: 9.8 points
Eddy Kim: 4.6 points
Red Velvet: 0.4 points
"If Got7, Red Velvet, and Eddy Kim are first, second, and third in that order, they must have had to add 39.2 points and there would be 40 points remaining. Is it possible for Akdong Musician, Winner, and Park Boram to not even receive 0.8 points total from the judges?" (Source)
2. [+66, -3] If they're going to be like this, then don't even put them as nominees from the start. What kind of twisted game are they playing by putting Winner into the nominees making Winner fans use up their time and energy to vote? If you look at Inner Circle's gallery or fan pages, they can't even express their anger about it because it might cause damage to Winner later on...
3. [+64, -3] We're not complaining about other artists receiving the award. We congratulate those artists for receiving an award. The thing is why, why, why didn't they give Winner one?????????? Why do we have to keep in our anger????? We should discuss things that we feel are wrong. Just like the chart says, we have to analyze the impossible situation about the votes. However, in the process of discussing these things, we should never put down other artists and we shouldn't write comments that will only smear Winner's image. If they're not going to give an award because an artist didn't attend, then they should have made that announcement from the very beginning. If not then don't even put them in the nominees! Fans used up their money for the voting charges and in the end it was all for nothing. If they told us beforehand that it would be like this, then the fans wouldn't have wasted their time to vote. I believe that the Seoul Music Awards should reveal their "fair" selection basis.
3. [+41, 0] YG fans have the right to be angry today. Where did Taeyang, Winner, Akdong Musician, and Epik High go~? They said that they would be giving an award fair and square last year, shouldn't they keep their promise?
4. [+36, -2] I'm not a fan but I really don't understand why Winner didn't get a rookie award. The fans must be so surprised.
5. [+36, 0] We're not mad about 'who' won the award... I hope other fans don't misunderstand this. We worked hard to vote but all the money we used seems like a waste. How can they not give an award because they didn't attend? They didn't even give a notice or announcement about that.
6. [+35, 0] I didn't know whether YG artists were going to attend or not but I thought that I would be happy to hear them get an award even if they didn't attend. That's why I waited... but there wasn't even a nominee video. I was really angry. Such trash. If you're going to give everyone the Rookie Award, what's the point of the charged voting? We worked so hard to vote since it's an award that they haven't received yet; and all that for what?
7. [+35, 0] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ If they're going to be like this, what's the point of making us vote?
8. [+30, 0] They're too funny ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ During the Rookie Award speech they said, "Let's look at the award criteria... and here are the nominees..." just what are they trying to pull? They were going to talk about the criteria and then they didn't. After that, they said they were going to show the nominees but they didn't even show them.
9. [+28, 0] I'm really curious about the award selection basis but I'm more curious about what they're going to do with all the money the fans spent to vote? Not just us but there's probably more fans who used up more money than we did. What are they going to use that for? Golden Disk's stage and sound system was crap too. Why did they hold it in China? I wish all fans would boycott the charged voting or something... I don't know anymore.
10. [+28, -1] About other groups receiving the award? That's fine. They can receive the award too since they are also nominees. I'm not saying anything about other groups receiving the award. What I have a problem with is does it make sense for Winner not to receive one??? It doesn't matter now if they get the award or not but I'm just speechless plus why did they make them pay for voting charges? I guess you can't vote now without paying? We should really boycott this. Golden Disk was the same too.
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58 comments :
It'a okay. We all know who's the best rookie. BUT I A MAD ABOUT AKMU NOT GETTING ANYTHING ㅡㅡ
So they didn't even make a statement that it's a 'no show, no award'? The fans must be so frustrated since they wasted their time & MONEY to vote and then it comes down to this.. "Winner's already got a lot of awards" I know that but this still isn't fair at all to them or the fans who voted.
Akdong Musician deserves an award. I don't understand why they didn't get one..
It's just unfair to the fans, who put their time into this.
I'm more upset about Akmu not getting an award :(
"they can't even express their anger about it because it might cause damage to Winner later on..." and i was wondering why everybody is so silent about this.
on the other news 2014s/s is still in the top 10 on gaon after 5 months while the others are nowhere to be found.
As expected of Korean Music Awards. I lost all my respect for them when 2NE1 didn't win the album of the year award.
KBS & YG, THATS NO NO
I just found out about SMA is KBS related so its obviously a NO NO and im not suprised at all when none of YG artist attend the award show or win anything. KBS seems so childish with the way they handle the situation. Its so obvious.
But everybody knows WINNER and AKMU slayed so..WINNER is still charting high lol ..This 'award' show is a joke imo..worse than GDA. i ust hope SMA give an explanation because we put time and many spent a lot of money on votes, so they just played dirty, so lame tbh.
They better prepare for this year cuz' YG artists are coming back to slay :)
it is so obvious from the start thats why i dont even bother to vote lmao. its a good lesson to ygstans, INNERCIRCLES especially
It's clear WINNER and AKMU should have been rewarded but they weren't invited should have never put them up for nomination and have fans waste money and time just to vote.
Let it go.....let it go.....
KBS acting like a child throwing a fit or a girl on her period lmao where did the professionally go tho' like it is obvious why, u know KBS is anti-YG, well they sure as hell don't deserve YG artists talent on their stages. I mean AKMU, Taeyang, EH, Winner, 2ne1, non of them deserves an award? Well guess who is looking down on KBS hard right now lol, the award is meaningless if it's just handed out to everyone. //breaksintoGD's mama diss just KBS version
In other news King Hoon is back!!…TT finally #COMEBACKHOON
eh… I expected no YG artists to win the moment I found out none was present at the red carpet. Pretty much all Korean music awards are no show no award. I aint even mad.
I do wonder why YG was a no show here…. Taeyang, 2NE1, & WINNER could've won a bonsang & possibly the Daesang…. they have the sales to back it up… but w.e
On another note, WINNER's album is charting 5 months later!!!
I watched on Healing Camp that YG doesn't want to wear out the energy of their artist doing activities on a lot of those channels that 's why he chose some specifically that he called friend and let them promote there. It's business decision and we have no say about it. So maybe instead of wasn't invited is that they know that they won't be coming . Although that they put them as nominees since they get no show then they don't receive awards , i think MAMA was like this too. So i will say that we should keep cool about this and keep our money away from this kind of award because we know eventually YG artist won't perform there and won't have any awards. I don't know if KBS is not part of the channel but from this i can assume it might. I just assume this based on Healing camp not stating that it's law of something like that. So don't be too mad and keep your money in your pocket from now on as YG stans, it's really between YG and KBS so far i think.
Its okay..we know winner are still slaying the charts..but im really mad about 2ne1 n akmu win NOTHING despite having a good sales..not even a bonsang..what an insult for them..their album was the best among any artist in 2014 but the amount of recognition they should receive is really poor..
Korean music award...as shitty as always...waste time, money & fans effort...
No attendance, no award...what a joke.
OMG hahahahahahahaha I just can't stop lmao, this is like the award ceremony for consolation awards...chance for others to get awards when one agency is out of the way...I'm proud that the awards our team have from other award giving bodies are genuine and not a shady consolation award...hahahahahaha...we all know who the real winners are...here goes, OMG our team got an award 1 out of 16, they deserve the 1 and not the 15 hahahahahahahahahaha...^^
same here, I already knew from the start, so I didn't even participate in the stupid voting hehehe...consolation awards indeed...^^
I never expected shows like those to bat an eye on any yg artists so unless it's like gdragon.
Its ok guys. Dont be maf. Yg artists never won there so its fine.
lets focus for other things like OT5 in WWIC. Hoon is back!!!!!
T_T
and money T__T
I'm so proud to be an I.C. rn. Look at how they're talking. They're not bashing any other group and are making their points clear as to why they're mad without causing a fight. They're being careful of their actions because they know that it represents winner's image. Omg i love incles
gaon physical chart?
last time I check winner's album #6 at gaon album chart this week
and empty at #47 don't flirt #66 at melon
but YG artist attend there during the 22nd SMA epik high,Lee hi,2ne1,bigbang
kinda disappointed why they didnt attend last year n this year
2. [+66, -3] If they're going to be like this, then don't even put them as nominees from the start. What kind of twisted game are they playing by putting Winner into the nominees making Winner fans use up their time and energy to vote? If you look at Inner Circle's gallery or fan pages, they can't even express their anger about it because it might cause damage to Winner later on...
This is why if yesterday night you're on twitter but incles not saying anything...
What makes me really mad is why they need a money to vote, can't they make the vote like mama voting with account and doesnt need to pay... Fans willing to give their idol anything and they take this opportunity to make money, its so upsetting
I kind of agree about boycotting the award ceremony, they talking about they will give an award fairly but as you can see it's not fair at all, all this no attendance no award need to stop.... They should at least give an award to WINNER eventho they didnt attend this bcs the results is there, WINNER is winning but they didnt get award bc theyre not attending the ceremony.. What a bullshit
I hope a big company like YG with a big influence in their korean music industry can help to speak our mind about this shitty award...
well its another no attendance no award policy. The PD will not give you the award for not going because you wont be there to give the speech therefore "ruining the flow" of the show. I thought everyone knows this already.
Off topic...but do you know where i can watch Healing camp eng sub?
get over it that YG isn't friendly enough to have connections to the music awards shows, which explains why they never won. except for MAMA(mnet) mostly. blame yg dumb people whining.
Yes, physical chart ^_^
i'm still mad right now. i'm a person who always share opinions. but now i'm just going to shut up about this coz this is about Winner. i love them and i don't want to curse!!!!
so they should befriend KBS for them to win. LMAO
I flipped out when I found out NO YG ARTIST won in SMA. Are these Korean awards seriously going go keep ignoring YG artists' achievements? Their credibilities are going downhill really.
I'm curious when Bigbang makes a comeback. Bet these awards are going to lick YG's ass to make Bigbang attend.
this no show=no award policy is BULLSHIT. 2014 s/s is still on repeat mode (along with akmu's play & 2ne1's crush album) and i feel that they really deserve to that rookie award. i mean, SMA can always like record the winner's thank you speech and broadcast it right?
Well kudos to K-Incles for being silent 'bout this but I've already ranted
in twitter. As a G-Incle, it's one of the few ways I can support WINNER for being unfairly treated, global fans can't do much with voting 'coz we hardly understand the mechanics, it being in korean and all.We can only whine if there's a reason and fight if it's worth fighting for. No one can bring WINNER down 'coz the only way for them to GO is UP! Let's boycott SMA next year, who's up with me?
The problem was the coordinators or people in charge of the award show did not state this policy or give a forewarning announcement for the fans. Worse, they included Winner into the nominees as if giving the fans hope that they might actually win the award--also SMA promised to give awards on a "fair" basis which also made the problem worse. Then it turned out they actually never intended on giving the award to no shows PLUS they charged the fans for voting. so they not only wasted the fans' time but also their money...
LOL, fans actually believed they will be "fair"?! This is why I never voted for this award because YG and SMA never confirmed attendance of the YG artist. Apart from MelOn they everyone else is missed-attendance-missed-awards policy.
They would include Winner and AkMu as nominee because those two deserve to win the award base on digital, and physical sales alone. They are the rookies that slayed it. Unfortunately, they did not attend, hence the PD's rob the award from them. I think what fans forget is this is a business they will make profit and they dont care how they do it. Its not a Nobel prize where hard work and creativity and being a genius counts.
I feel bad for IC's though. They spend and made an effort to vote and those PD just screw them over, but I hope they learn from this. Fans should know that no matter how big the company or the artist is it is still up to the PD. If PD dont like you, you get nothing.
Its okay Winner. You guys are still the best rookie in 2014. Im waiting for your comeback pls do well ♡
The fact that 2ne1 doesn't win many awards for Crush, is ridiculous I don't even know what to say..
This year's awards such as SMA, GDA & MAMA were such a trash tbh.
Also, SMA didn't put down Winner only they did the same with AKMU, Taeyang & 2ne1 -_-
Bcuz SMA is KBS related lol
Inner circles are definitely one considerate and lovable fandom. Not putting down other artists, always trying to be reasonable and logical, always supporting winner with all their heart I am so proud of liking winner
Why are you mad when you didn't even vote for Akmu?
Look at the chart. Akmu fans didn't even vote.
freakin love this fandom. am always far from calling it the best one but its at least a great one. lets stay always like this fellow ics ♡
apart from the obvious bullshit coming from kbs, it saddens and angers me that incles should "keep" their anger inside because people will label us as whiners even if the matter is worth complaining for.
By the way. Finally Dont Flirt was used as a background in Running Man.
What about AKMU? I feel like so many people were robbed at the awards shows, like IU and the song "some".
Who won?
So you mean, the chart rankings, physical sales, and digital sales have no substance to SMA criteria in picking winners? Then YG just need to ship some of their beauties to KBS officials so they can have a strong connection, I'll recommend Dara then, LOL!
yes the chart don't applies to YG artist in such awards except for Mnet's MAMA award mostly, and sometimes Melon awards the rest, no matter how they slayed the charts it's useless. don't even bother voting lol. it's the yg connections to the awards thing. not " yg don't overwork their artists" that is crap lmao.
Got7
But look at it from another angle.... the people who did get the awards... kniw it's not because they're the best.. but because the real winners did't attend...
If I wasn't slightly angry... i would feel pity for them..
because Akmu slayed as well
What ep?
too bad yg fans needed to split-up in the votings... i mean, during the voting period i was like voting for winner the first day then akmu the next day.. and it went on...
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