2014-12-09

[Instiz] YG Entertainment's leaders


1. Big Bang - G Dragon
2. 2NE1 - CL
3. Epik High - Tablo
4. Winner - Kang Seungyoon (Past: Song Mino)
5. iKON - B.I

Source: Instiz

[1] "Kang Seungyoon's the only vocal... so he's the first vocal leader then, right?"

[2] "They're kids worthy of the position as leader"

[3] "These kids are the ones who will never lose in a battle of spirit"

[4] "But they've chosen leaders really well... their talent and responsibility even at their young age..."

[5] "They're the type of people that have that force that automatically make you want to kneel."

[6] "Wish all of them would get together to perform something like "The Leaders" during one of the year-end awards ㅠㅠ"

[7] "I didn't know Mino was the past leader..."

[8] "Kang Seungyoon's leadership is amazing though he's young... Mino as well."

[9] "All of the people listed above have incredible mentalities..."

[10] "If Mino was still the leader, just looking at YG's leaders would be to die for."

[11] "I like all of them..."

[12] "Kang Seungyoon's pose is killer when he stays still but once he smiles he turns into a cute puppy."

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108 comments :

KpopMusicLover said...

I think the leaders are well chosen indeed. We need a new version of " The Leaders " indeed !

chiey said...

Yassss the leaders new ver.!! And seungyoon can sing the vocal part 😀

엿먹어 said...

Kang Seungyoon is an incredible leader and I wouldn't have it any other way but YG's reasoning for changing the leader during WIN was just.... :\ Couldn't stand to see Mino cry...

gzbitch said...

SEUNGYOON WINS BC HE IS THE COOLEST OF THEM ALL TBH.

LoveTabi said...

I love and adore Mino but I honestly feel like Seungyoon becoming the leader was a decision made made by the gods lol he's so good with words and idk I feel like he's really well rounded like Taehyun said "Seungyoon is the winner of winner"

png said...

YAS please perform The Leaders
Actually when I watched WIN, I thought the switching of leader was temporary until Mino's leg gets better, I didn't know it was permanent

Chunny said...

kang seungyoon my baby...

Mr. Kanji said...

Yes please give us a new ver of The Leaders ;____; and I love Mino but Seungyoon as a leader is just <33333 He's amazing.

Jinhwanderer said...

[10] "If Mino was still the leader, just looking at YG's leaders would be to die for."

Is this shade on Seungyoon?? lol

Mr. Kanji said...

I think they're talking more about like the pose/aura that they would give off! Since the rappers have that "Strong"" feel

Riyadh Prawiryo Att said...

Wish all of them would get together to perform something like "The Leaders" during one of the year-end awards ㅠㅠ"

If this happen, i will die!!!!!

Bored af said...

Mino is my bias in WINNER but I really love Seungyoon as the leader. His leadership style is ideal in my eyes. He's the type of leader that pushes his members from behind and walks together with them, he know what each of WINNER's member is best at and he really does trust his members a lot. Plus he's so caring and sweet around them. He is the ideal leader to me.

Of course I love other YG leaders as well

Bored af said...

YHS is a d*ck sometimes. It was so painful to watch Mino break down and it must have been so awkward for KSY then.

letstalk said...

YA'LL DON'T START WITH MINO SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LEADER SHIT!!
KSY IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB!!HE DESERVES IT!!MAYBE HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO'S NOT A RAPPER LEADER IN YG BUT HE'S STILL AN AWESOME LEADER
As a mino stan i can say that mino can't handle situations like ksy!!ksy on the other hand maybe one of the youngest in the group but he surely is really mature!! Winner have clashing personalities and ksy is handling them well!!

LoveTabi said...

Same! I've said it a million times but instead of him leading his team he supports them in the back. He's extremely intelligent and caring. Instead of losing his cool and yelling at his members like other leaders do he 's patient and he encourages them to not give up. His my favorite leader honestly I love the contrast betweet him and bi that we were able to see in win. Some people prefer the "strong" type but for me Seungyoon's leadership style is definitely the best. Ah I just love him so much

namutehyon said...

Honestly, it was the best decision to switch the leader from Mino to Seungyoon. Mino seemed to be tense because of the leader title during WIN while Seungyoon could still manage to keep his composure... or maybe that's just me lol

guest said...

good try

letstalk said...

I love your comment
Ksy is the type who thinks of winner before himself T.T

Mr. Kanji said...

Yes so true~ and coincidentally, "Team A" got their first win after that too, didn't they? Things really started to look up after then... I'm glad the boys can joke about it too I think I read somewhere that they tease mino about being the past leader? I forgot where..

guest said...

I am a mino biased but I think yoon is a better leader than mino. And I am proud of mino and yoon's growing friendship. Leader line fighting! minyoon <3

letstalk said...

Actually ksy or lsh should have been the leader back then instead of mino
Yg just has eyes for rappers i tell ya

Amanda Rachel said...

From all of YG groups, I prefer Kang Seung Yoon leadership style. This style just suit me the best.

maino said...

True. they both gave off a different aura tho. during win when mino was the leader- remember the situation with taehyun? he was a little...rough? (he's hot tho lol). mino suits more to be a leader's 'councilman' (is that even exists?).
I LOVE LOVE seungyoon's leadership! he's so open minded and good with words. hope they grow more mature and big in the future.

theaccidentalpro said...

when it comes to KSY leadership position with Winner, i think fate made it happen for KSY and the group, looking at them now... it really does make sense and he fits the role perfectly.

Don't get me wrong i love Mino... but there is also a reason why everyone including the fans easily accepted the leader change in then Team A.

KSY also for some reason gives of this certain leader vibe, between Winner and Ikon boys it seems like they really look up and listen to him...

Amanda Rachel said...

Yes YG suck. But everything happen for a reason. God made smth for a good reason. In the end, what more important are WINNER's members happiness & success.

evelyn said...

I didn't realize that Tablo was the leader of Epik High, I thought that they were all just equal(?)

Amanda Rachel said...

If u watch Naver Starcast, Mino is really thankful 4 KSY being WINNER's leader. But I think Yoon sometimes still consult things with Mino. Mino & Yoon just seems too close & always hang out together.

Kidari said...

All of them are great leaders . I have seen BI very protective and working to make great songs because he felt that his team was in danger of being broken . I can only applaud him being the choregrapher, song compositor and stimulator of his group. Salute

HanaVIP said...

I always give my respect to the leaders a little bit more. Not only to YG groups.
I hope all of them are strong enough to face anything. Especially the younger ones, KSY and B.I. Please eat well, you're getting thinner nowadays :')
There are a lot of things that might be happened in the future, but please be strong.
And GD, CL, Tablo... you went through so much all these years. Thank you so much for staying strong and keep smiling through it all. Keep moving forward.
Love you, leaders!!! <3

Shinee said...

Stealing Choreographs from others ? Applaud

Bored af said...

B.I is a great leader but his leadership style can be a double-edged sword sometimes. He gets things done perfectly and all members trust in him, however it could lead to a lack of diversity in iKON's music and style since B.I is the main composer/choreographer of the group and he's too dominant sometimes. Moreover, B.I overworked himself, he's too much pressurized for being the leader. Poor kid, he's just 18 years old but the burden on his shoulders is just too huge. He should learn to delegate his works to other members & loosen himself up as well

S_B_I said...

B.I ^^ he's always taking care of his members.

cigaretteplease said...

Meanwhile, CL is the leader who likes to go center stage and hogs all the lines. Maybe she likes to think she's the ONLY package in 2NE1? Main singer, main rapper, main dancer and THE visual. Lmao. She even ad libs unnecessarily, trouncing on her members' few parts. Now she's going solo in the US and her beloved papa YG even covers her up with a stupid reflection period for Dara & Minzy. Because CL can do as pleases, but not the other members. She only cares for her GZBS', not Blackjacks as a whole! She preaches about "girl power" and "confidence" but she's always hiding in her sunnies and is always caked up in thick makeup. Yup, she's the best leader, if being the best means being self-centered and self-serving!

cigaretteplease said...

I agree! SY is the best leader fit for WINNER and Mino is a big of a person to accept this.

Hallie said...

Agree but I love how leader Mino wakes Seungyoon up too...

Bored af said...

STOP THE HATE ON CL!


You don't know how much CL has done for the girls.

KpopMusicLover said...

I guess you're blind when the girls talk about how much they depend on her, how she's a great leader, how she saved Dara's live, how she misses the girls the most. Take your hate somewhere else, I'm 100% sure if the other girls saw what you've wrote about CL you be castes out and told to leave. All she ever does is work and work, she even worked on Christmas and other holidays, she was only seen out once whilst being in America all this time she was in the studio.

KpopMusicLover said...

Just flag that phony BJ

cheyanne said...

Kang seungyoon the nagging leader but really he's so good in words!! When he speak he's so deep that sometimes I fell like listening to 40 yrs old guy..and the Winner boys listen to him well and I think even DB looks up to him..

cheyanne said...

And think seungyoon is best chosen as winner leader coz he speak well infront of yg..he's not intimidated..even mino said that seungyoon greet and talks to yg confidently..

mel12 said...

Personally, I prefer to work with KSY's leadership considering I am the type of person who expects others and my thoughts and ideas to be valued and heard. KSY creates an atmosphere where you feel comfortable enough to share your ideas and makes you feel valued as a member of the team. His selfless and humble leadership is amazing despite how young he is. Winner members will only grow and shine individually and as a whole because of that. With KSY as a leader, you're no longer working under his leadership but rather alongside him.

_Π_ said...

I though taeyang was the leader of big bang for a long tym..lol

cigaretteplease said...

How she saved Dara's lives is within the bounds of their friendship. If they saw my post, they would agree and probably pat my back for speaking aloud for their sake. We're talking about her LEADERSHIP. Her selfish and greedy ways. No one in their right mind would be okay with being perpetually deliberately over-shadowed by a member. Regardless of their friendship/relationship. There's this interview or fancam when CL corrected Bom and Bom was like "oh yes CL KNOWS everything, right?" It was played as a joke but there's meaning to it. The members just don't have it in them to speak up especially with YG backing up CL and prioritizing her in recent times. SO what if she worked hard? Can't I say the same for the rest of 2NE1?

titan-kun said...

KSY is highly intelligent and he actually have IQ over 140. He's amazing right.

titan-kun said...

I actually wonder if Song Mino is the leader would we ever get to see the real Song Mino that we see now. I think he will be more reserve if his the leader. Thank god he is not lol now we get Song Mino running wild everywhere he goes lol.

titan-kun said...

Not to mention KSY did say when they in their dorm the hyungs will be the leader and he will be the maknae as he should be.

Still be it KSY or Mino we all know all of Winner members are slave to Nam Master lmaoooo

titan-kun said...

I dont know why but I always associate Winner with One Piece (the anime) lol probably because both are my favorite. The personality kind of fits lol
KSY = Luffy
Mino = Zoro
Jinwoo = Chopper
LSH = Usop/Franky
Taehyun = Sanji

titan-kun said...

Lmao...Tablo said Winner are crazy kids. I agree with him hahaha KSY please never change! He's just different :)

koriko said...

Well-said! KSY for the win.

Bored af said...

No lie detected lmao. Nam Diva is the Diva for a reason

titan-kun said...

Bow down to the queen lmaooo

VIP_RockWithMe said...

I think the OP has a point, he/she might have come across as a hater or an anti but i get his/her point because outside the BlackJack fandom, 2ne1 has been referred to as CL and the girls, from an outsider's POV there is definitely a difference in how the girls are marketed. This is the same with how 4minute has turned into HyunA and the back-up dancers. Currently the line distribution is skewed in favor of CL and even tho Dara/Bom were the most popular in the past CL always had a good percentage of lines in a song.

R. Felixcity MelKieJ said...

we need "the leader" Vol 2 and of course featuring Teddy oppa.....

koriko said...

I agree. It's always been marketed as CL and the rest of 2NE1. Hitting it off the bat with Fire, as "CL of 2NE1. It's just that Bom with her initial popularity from her features with BB and coincidentally Dara, who first captured the masses' attention with her visuals were more popular in the beginning. YG was pushing CL at the center from the start, it just took years for her to take off. Like GD is the most popular in Big Bang but u never hear it say as GD with Big Bang or GD with the boys. Despite GD's huge gap of popularity compared to the others, the rest of Big Bang were given their respective limelights and career boost. And GD, for all his faults, is a fair and humble leader for BB. He writes their songs and has the power to dominate the group in every role but he takes the backseat and lets everyone shine. Whereas with CL, she gets to have the most lines in the songs and is always in front and center. There's also exaggerated media play when it comes to her. The rest are neglected and taken for granted. If CL were placed in Bom's situation, I bet YG would have handled the case differently and more thoroughly.

Michelle9Jaejoong4 said...

Mino is too immature to be a leader. It's like TOP being leader of BB. First impression, it does seem like he would fit the part...but then you see how silly and how much of a short attention span he has...lol...not truly equipped to be a leader.

Adelia said...

well said.. agree 200%. i just hope they stay healthy.

VIP_RockWithMe said...

I think what annoys most of the fans who are not CL biased is the fact that the other girls get so little lines and during live performances CL tends to adlib during those already little lines they have. A lot of people have said that if the other girls dont want to be overshadowed then they should step up however, i do believe that as a group CL needs to know how to perform as a group. I know she's a good performer and her solo performances amaze me however, seeing them live when they had their AON tour here was so awkward for me, mainly because I saw what people said as 'CL and the girls'

I think it's time fans realize that people who make comments like this are not simply CL antis-haters. We all know 2ne1 isn't forever however, with the way things are going, it just seems like CL is the only all set up for a solo career which to me is unfair considering the girls' current situation. I partly blame YG as he should have let the girls explore individual activities and build a track for their own careers but i think CL also has a part in the way the group has turned out over-all. The problem 2ne1 is facing has never been encountered by BigBang even though there is a huge disparity between their popularity. When BB performs you dont call them GD and the boys mainly because GD(with his stage presence) never goes beyond the boundary of performing as a group when he performs with BB he portrays himself as BigBang's G-Dragon while CL performs simply as CL.

I dont see this problem happening in Winner, there is a chance it could happen to iKon but currently we cant tell, it would take about 1-2 years to see if iKon would turn out as BI+Bobby and the boys.

Fans need to see that there is a problem, and people's view of the group is affected by this problem

winnie said...

All has been credited. If you want call it "steal" lols. B.I is still amazing just the way he is

cigaretteplease said...

WORD!!

cigaretteplease said...

But what makes Hyuna different from CL (apart from having a more successful solo career and the approval of korea) is that despite being placed at the center of 4minute, she still tries to blend in with group. She doesn't bring that hog mentality and attitude CL has when performing with her group.

cigaretteplease said...

The best diva is Namdiva.

Bored af said...

I'm grateful that Mino is being Mino now. He would have not been this Song Bluff who is always fun and crazy & full of energy if the leader burden were still on his shoulders. That being said, he can be a great 2nd-hand leader of WINNER. He def has that leader aura.

I love that Mino & KSY are extremely close lately. They can be dad and mom of W5 who lead the group while Hoonie can be the uncle who directs W5's stage and choreo, Jinwoo is the big hyung/fake maknae who takes care of the rest at dorm and Nam Diva being the Maknae On Top whom everyone is scared of haha

chyeah said...

During win when mino got switched i was quite upset because hes my ultimate bias and i had hope to see him in the leader role because i thought he was doing well. I felt so bad for him but now im glad seungyoon is the leader bc he is well with words and has a nice image meanwhile mibo gets too tense like other say and his emotions sometimes become too strong so yeah im glad seungyoon is our leader now :-)

Bored af said...

No, I dont think Mino is too immature. He acts dumb and funny all the time but that does not equate being immature. As you can see from WIN, he took the role so seriously that he was so tense. He knew what a big deal his role was to Team A and since he was never a leader in the paste, it was a huge responsibility to him. He plays around lots but when he's composed and serious, he really is. If you watched how he dealt with the situation Nam Taehyun tricked him in WINNERTV, you'd see how much concerned he was, he was the only one who sat down and spoke the issue out with Taehyun, that shows his leadership quality - understanding the situation. He's more strict in his leadership than Yoonie.


Yoonie is of course a great leader and no one should ever complain about how he leads WINNER.

fangirlimnida said...

Idk why I see seunghoon as brook more-- hoho

justtocommenttt said...

Jinwoo as chopper is accurate as hell lol

KpopMusicLover said...

OK since you think GD is the perfect leader. How about this; when was the last time GD ever posted a Big Bang OT5 picture ? Does he ever retweet things about the group ? Does he tells the fans that he misses Seungri, T.O.P or Daesung ? And when Big Bang and G-Dragon as solo was nominated for the World Music Awards did he ever promote for people to vote for the group ? Nope he only promoted himself. Not once has he told people to vote for the group but only himself.


And if GD likes the other members to shine why the hell is it taking them long to have a comeback because it's pretty much all on his shoulder meanwhile you have Taeyang, T.O.P and Seungri who can also produce songs but no it has to be GD. And look at this GDYB and don't tell me is a proper sub-unit but actually just GD song with a featuring of Taeyang and GD always adding ad-libs to the song. And let's not forget how even on Taeyang's album there is a song where GD is the main one rapping meanwhile Taeyang just singing the chorus. How many albums has GD released compared to Taeyang's 4 year gap for another solo album ? Let's also not forget how he was promoted during Taeyang's solo activities meanwhile GD released no song. Everybody know that YG only favours GD than anyone else so stop playing. I have not problem with GD but I've been more of a Taeyang fan and I'm sure other can tell you how Taeyang is always in the shadows to the point he himself said that he might leave YG because he's not completely satisfied with musically career, I think you missed how much he was shading YG.


Bom still holds a very successful title for a solo song, she was set out to be a variety Queen but it didn't go through because of Segye Illbo. Dara lack of drama that I don't know, maybe she herself is waiting for the perfect role that will fit her or YG is being careful on choosing what to not damage her image. Minzy is studying but she's still young and you never know what could happen in 2015.

KpopMusicLover said...

Oh Yes because you know everything behind the scene :-/ . That solo debut is only happening because Scooter Braun has got a interest in her not him pushing her into her because of PSY being signed with him as well. People who don't even know 2NE1 but have been catching wind of CL and research more about her start to like the whole group. Why are you acting like her solo debut is next month is next year in Spring and all she's been doing is posting pictures of the studio in America, she's not doing anything worth promoting right now, it's mainly the fans on social media talking about her. If Segye ilbo didn't happened Bom would have been known as the new variety queen and been on many shows but not now she has to stay low and most Bom stan worry more about her protection. If anything that Crush album has done is showing what a great vocalist Minzy is, I guess you missed out on how manly are talking about her stability and great vocal skills since Crush. The only thing Dara can do is act, why she's not getting roles I don't know, she might have gone to audition but been rejected ever thought about that ??


Should we also talk about how she had many solo things lined up in 2013 but said she want's to mainly focus on the group and then we had a awesome album because of it, YG didn't even give a shit about 2NE1 album until he saw what she wrote and told her to translate it in Korean and now he seeing a longer future for 2NE1 with CL being the main producer ? What about Minzy and Bom saying they've asked CL to produce a song for them ?

VIP_RockWithMe said...

I never said GD was the perfect leader. I said that when they perform. Because live performances is what ticks the other BlackJacks off, when BigBang performs, GD doesn't hog the stage nor does he steal the spotlight while someone else is singing. I dont think you know very well my personal opinion about GD and how i mostly question his over promotion, however, we are talking about CL. I cant believe people still buy the crap that Dara is waiting for the perfect role when every time she's asked she always says she wants to act like she's begging to be part of something, waiting for that 'perfect role' fine, so it wont damage her image? She's been waiting for over 4 years, with the ways things are going she's not gonna have any image left. Suzy, Yoona, heck even the most basic idol actors started off being crap, they were all heavily criticized yet they all came out successfully. . Minzy studying isn't an excuse for lack of activities on YG's part. That very successful solo Bom had in 2009 and 2011 were under promoted, despite good results digitally YG never pushed her the way they did with CL tho Bom was met with a more commercial success, from a business POV that is just stupid.

Everybody knows GD gets the bigger piece of the cake when it comes to BigBang, but the difference between BigBang and 2ne1 is that the other BigBang members gets something, the other 2ne1 members get nothing. Dara's only solo effort even had CL on it, considering for an ad i dont think the comany requested for CL but YG asked for CL to feature.

Im not talking about how CL misses the other members and GD must be a freaking demon coz he never misses the other BigBang members, im talking about how in 2ne1 only one member gets an opportunity to do something for a solo career while the other two without a scandal just sits there. Taeyang has had 2 solo albums. Top has been in 3 movies and a drama, Seungri has released 3(or 2 im not sure) mini And Daesung has Japan. Compare that to anything Bom/Dara/Minzy has gotten in 5 years. Yes among BigBang GD is a selfish asshole who gets everything but within YG BigBang as a whole gets gold compared to the rusting piece of crap the other members of 2ne1 sans CL gets

KpopMusicLover said...

When it comes to stage presence I always hear people talking about 2NE1's great stage presence so from what you're saying it's BJ who are mostly angry about this stage hogging :-/ mean whilst everyone always compliments the whole group. Just read what other idols say it's always 2NE1 has got a great stage presence not CL is the only one who has great stage presences. To be honest most Blackjack's I follow don't even talk about that not even the popular accounts :-/ it's only a small number of fans


So we are not going to talk about Bom's pre-debut work + her solo activities as a 2NE1 member meanwhile the only time we are hearing about CL was during " The Baddest Female " era.


Was CL in Dara's new online Drama with a big American TV actor ?? She got lot's of press for that ect no CL there. What about her Kiss MV I don't see CL there. And also Dara was heavily promoted during the earlier days since she was the visual; with YG help or not, people still knew Dara more than anyone else followed by Bom, nobody even cared for CL as much as today.


What gold has she received ?? Her American debut ? That's not only promoting her but the group, I don't see the " TBF " or " MTBD " being used for a international ad but actually 2NE1 " IATB " If I was heavily promoting her I would use one of her solo songs at least then she has hype for America. I personally think her debut was set for 2013 but 2NE1 as a group wasn't doing well that time, she even said that she rejected offers to focus on the group with 2NE1 successful Crush album and still proving they are relevant now the solo activities can start, let's also remember that it's only their 5th year recently. I honestly think each member are starting their solo activities, Bom's one got ruined because of the scandal, Dara can only act let's be real but acting offers don't fall from the sky she might have been rejected for certain roles but we don't know that since we don't work at YGE. Minzy I'm 100% that next year is her time to shine in Korea so I'm not worried for her + she still young.


I don't know how YG managements and CL characters are one of the same.

titan-kun said...

That too!

pamela said...

B.I is love B.I is life

kittykhatz said...

All of them are group leaders for a reason. They have a lot of potential and they care for their groups a lot. it's sad that I see hate comments on GD or CL and questioning their dedication to their groups. I'm very saddened by how some like to single out CL calling her selfish. Have we forgotten how much CL have contributed to the Crush Album? Aren't you all grateful that Dara has more than a couple of lines in the songs. That the album showcased how good a singer Minzy is same with how exceptional Bom's voice is. So CL is doing a US solo, is she really being selfish? why? when Dara finally does a movie or Dara would you expect her to drag a long a #2NE1 member? People weren't so upset when Bom and Dara were doing solos why can't some fans be the same with CL. I'm not even a CL stan. Dara is my biased but I can obviously see how certain stans pick on specific members and vice versa. There is no OT3. #2NE1 is CL, Dara, Bom and Minzy no more no less.

kittykhatz said...

I like the fact that KSY became the leader I was actually surprised the Mino was initially picked by YG but I also like Mino but he was so worked up when he became leader. KSY being the leader let adorable pabo-Mino loose so I'm happy. And KSY is the type of leader that will nag you but he would also sit down with you and listen. The change worked for everybody now Winner is a truly award winning group.

elize said...

[3] "These kids are the ones who will never lose in a battle of spirit"
so true

charendbsk said...

i always thanks YG for the right decision to choose leader, while some group from another agency choose leader by age (the oldest) YG choose by responsibility and the right way of the leader to lead his/her members .....
All yg leader is my fav and so fab .....

"Kang Seungyoon's pose is killer when he stays still but once he smiles he turns into a cute puppy."

kang dumpling is nagging puppy lol

charendbsk said...

"When I first saw hyung (jinwoo) in the practice room crouched down and hiding in
a hoodie, my heart was aching because it felt like hyung didn't want to
show himself to the world. I just couldn't understand why hyung was
hiding the cool and handsome person that he is. Hyung deserves to be
loved. Cheer up, my friend!" <- nobody can resist his good heart

Celine said...

same

disqus_19reFVCsE6 said...

This feels so weird ... I've been by SM side I mean knowing more about their artists than YG's but making part of only one fandom for about 6 years now ... But after 6 years B.I appeared from nowhere making me come over little by little to YG side lol and now I like iKON .like ''stanning'' them... Its not the first time for me to have a temporary crush for some other groups but my interest didn't last longer ha.
But this time Hanbin got me.. like.. he really got me because he had like a ''I have so much to bring to this industry'' pinted on his face you know... he has so much talent that YG made him the leader of iKON. His leadership skills are no joke after watching Win and Mix&Match. He knows how to deal with the members well and they respect him as well. He is so responsible at 19 age... And knowing that Amercian age he's 18! ... I hope he'll receive the recognition he deserves after debuting. He and the boys have a bright future looking at how things are going now.

Anon. said...

I don't get this whole GZB/Blackjack mentality some people have, like you obviously from your comment. To be honest, what's it even matter? If you like CL you'd be a GZB, if you're a Blackjack then you'd be a GZB just like how you'd be a Minja, Bomshell, Daraling. So I don't even get why you people put up this barrier. Why are you hating if she uses GZB if your're a GZB or a Blackjack? Both means you like CL. The only people who would have a problem with this are people who don't like CL. You guys are the ones creating this imaginary line to say she is this or that when in the end she's talking to people who like her, which would be GZB and Blackjacks. So stop pretending like you're hurt when she uses GZB.

Anon. said...

Oh and you're definitely joking when you think the main reason YG came up with this 'reflection period' was because of CL and not because of Bom and the haters she'll probably have for a long time. Besides Minzy and Dara have had activities within this reflection period so... Why are people even mad about this? You act as if 2NE1 or CL/Dara/Minzy would have come back this year or something. That would have never happened.

cigaretteplease said...

Lol! Why would I be hurt? I'm not her fan. The topic IS her leadership skills which is non-existent.

Anon. said...

Then why are you talking about her using GZB versus Blackjack? That has nothing to do with her being a leader in the group. And why do you even care if she uses one or another, you obviously do because you're talking about it and using it as a fault on her part.

Hipployta said...

Gotta be honest but when YG made Mino the leader I felt like EVERYONE was surprised. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. All that time they had been referred to a Seungyoon's team, and he was the one with the solo, but suddenly Mino was the leader? Nope...and unfortunately it went as expected. YG took a minor incident and switched the leaders as he was likely planning all along.


I really do enjoy YG leaders...they craft their group's image and sound and make it work. I would really enjoy a new generation version of The Leaders.

Nova_REMIX said...

Who's gonna be the leader of the new girl group?

KpopMusicLover said...

I can't even deal with these people, they are part of that cult stan who think their bias has all her opportunity cancelled because CL said so loool. As if Minzy wasn't performing with Epik High and Dara did a variety show, magazine shoot, photoshoot in Philippines,make-up CF and greet and meet and that online drama. It's only a small section of that stan that always complain and are bitter AF.

kittykhatz said...

I think I read some where it's Jennie Kim. Not sure though if it's official I could be wrong.

Michelle9Jaejoong4 said...

lol, with Taehyun's undercover prank- ALL the members (besides hoon who fell asleep) were concerned...
Ok, I'll lay it out there. Mino doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb out there- which on several occasions the WINNER members have said so in interviews. whatever, I still like him and think he is talented.

Michelle9Jaejoong4 said...

I don't think it'll be Jennie. I think it'll be one of the girls that havent been revealed to us yet.

titan-kun said...

Lmao NamIe

Apple said...

KSY and B.I really are getting thinner OMG :((

yglover said...

I agree with you... I don't even get that "GZB/Daraling/Minja/Bomshells" thing, we are ALL BLACKJACKS...I mean--- COME ON... I am a blackjack since their debut in 2009 and I haven't even finished deciding my bias list since then... and even until now...


First, I fell in love with Dara (coz of her perseverance, beauty and cute 4D personality), then Bom (coz of her voice, and well--- her being an 8D alien "gorgeousness"), then Minzy (coz of her amazing dance skills and funny/cute antics) and then CL (coz of her superb talent and her cute and caring attitude towards her members despite her cold "gizibe" stage persona) ...


I mean I love them all...they all have great talent and amazing personalities that you can rarely find on other groups...2NE1 IS NOTHING IF THERE'S NO CL, DARA, BOM OR MINZY...

yglover said...

[5] "They're the type of people that have that force that automatically make you want to kneel."



KNEEL, PEASANTS, KNEEL!!!

Nova_REMIX said...

SEE. IT FITS.

Nova_REMIX said...

Really? Well, it makes sense.

titan-kun said...

Lmao and Nami is the master on mugiwara pirate ship too lol

cigaretteplease said...

Because it has everything to do with her as 2NE1's leader. She should know better. This attitude of hers is alienating her fans, she's making a distinction between GZBs and Blackjacks. You CL Stans are so delusional and blind you fail to see the entire picture and only understand things to your convenience.

Nova_REMIX said...

I request WINNER to cosplay as One Piece for Halloween 2015.

titan-kun said...

Imagine Jinwoo dress up as chopper.... SCREAMS

Nova_REMIX said...

I would legit scream and save it as my background.

withwink_ said...

I think in bigbang, each one of them has strong stage presence. Even seungri who got little lines, still shine when he sing his parts. In 2ne1, you can see that dara for example, not step up in the game for stage presence. I can see that minzy is getting the spotlight whenever they performed live but well yeah, it mostly cl.

When you see the live performance, it's really like cl and the back up dancer. I just hope the 3 will shine more.

withwink_ said...

Love all the leaders.
BI really has amazing leadership. He is trained to be a rapper and a leader. I still remember in win where they (OT11) have to perform with gd for crooked, bi lead them well. :D

Ksy is more like a leader who push the members from the back to shine more. He speaks well and lead well too.

Im not trying to compare them but ksy is the type of leader who people will get along so well and bi is the type of leader who give the strong impression of leader.

withwink_ said...

He really has amazing leadership. When I first watched win, this guy really stands out bcs of his brave attitude AND his leadership. He lead his group so well. It's true he may overshadow the others but I hope when ikon debut, all of them will shine.

Judyi said...

I see B.I. As another GD both are the same but it feels like B.I is much more fierce when it comes to competition and survival. Wasn't GD around the same age when he debuted? If I compare rookie BB and rookie Ikon, arn't the ikon kids scarier than BB. IKons main heart is B.I. But it seems like Hanbin depends on everyone too. He needs Jinhwans support, Bobby to make him laugh and help him in music, junhoe is like a rival and an endorphine to his achievements, yoyo is dependable and kind who takes over without a doubt. Hanbin really takes care of donghyuk and looks for ways to make him shine in dance and in vocals, and Chanwoo is like his pet now ^^ little brother chanwoo.
I think ikon can be a strong candidate group for solo careers. Much like how BB has done, and winner is a strong promise too.

Miky said...

You said it so right and agree with all of it,for me Yoon is the perfect leader for WINNER,this without looking down on Mino...i always see this comments that he doesn't suit the leadership and that Mino should have remain in charge,mostly because they see Mino as that fierce persona and so automaticly want him yet i strongly think that for Winner Yoon personality and way of leadership is the best and the members know it as well and we can see it many times even more seeing how united they are...One must take a look as the members as well and find the most suited leader and Yoon is the best and never dissapointed till now...

Miky said...

Besides while one leadership style can work on one team like in case of Ikon with B.I. i really don't think it can work the same style with a group like Winner were almost all the members have such strong personalities...there must be a balance and a fit leader for each group to have good team work and harmony,what is good for one can be a bad option for the other,the same formula doesn't always work and in this case Yoon was the best choice and balance for Winner and like Mino himself said he actually thanks Yoon now,and i prefer the bubbly Mino

Miky said...

I'm sure seeing Yoon all this time that he's the type to consult Mino and even take all the boys in other stuff and ask all their opinions and then find the best choice...what i really like is that all work together and talk,being bad or good and after they try to find the best choice,that's the key to a lasting group...everyone's opinion is important and who doesn't love Mino and Yoon friendship,seeing them always hang out,going to the movies,they even influence each other fashion style jajja

Miky said...

Let's say that Yoon is the best suited for Winner and that doesn't make Mino any less capable...i also think that most of the Winner fans find it true that Yoonie is the best leader for them while the non fans look down on him for u know not having the strong charisma...

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